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We gotta talk about Biden's press conference today

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Maybe a rule change should make a president from one party and a vice president from another.

Result?


I've often thought that the President and Vice-President should be separate elective offices, so that the people can choose.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Did it used to be that way? I mean, without the singing and dancing.
I'd prefer the signing and dancing!

If anything the gaffe got me thinking about presidents and vice presidents in history, and it's quite an eye opener when you look back into time. So far 45 presidents and 49 vice presidents served this country and played out like the outer limits so far.

 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I've often thought that the President and Vice-President should be separate elective offices, so that the people can choose.
It would create a natural checks and balances , but of course notable amount of conflict between the two leaders that cannot get along and can't compromise, but having two elects can be a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it.

It's an intriguing idea all the same as I'm not a huge fan of appointed government officials with some few exceptions here and there.
 

JIMMY12345

Active Member
I can see why Europe is concerned. They are afraid of what will happen if Trump is elected, and they are afraid of what might happen if Biden is elected.

Today's press conference was quite sobering, to say the least.


Its dead easy to unseat Biden.On the next CNN debate the interviewer asks both .Mentally please add:

42+78+19-15 add double.


Bet they both get in wrong.This when the paper answers they jot down are checked.Next step new candidates.The Democrats have it easy here.Select the candidate 80% of female voters want and love.You can add this to the 70% of male candidates.

Yep Go Go Go George Clooney. Follow the steps of Ronald Reagan and Zelensky. Some people seek greatness.Some have it thrust on them.

Meanwhile D Trump will be the next POTUS. Confirming his love affair with Putin.He just confirmed he proposes Putin be allowed to keep all sized "Russian" sorry "Ukrainian" territory. Drat Biden has us all doing it now.Irrespective of weapon cuts and the fact Ukraine is NOT asking for USA troops.

If Ms K Harris runs for POTUS she will easily sweep New York and Washington and some states.She will lose the electoral college .(Due to voters in the South/Rural USA).Giving the future President Mr Trump an even bigger win.
 
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F1fan

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So did I!

But I agree -- Biden is much, much preferred. Canadians are wise enough to know that nobody at the pinnacle of power does it by themselves. They have aides and expert advisers on every subject under the sun. And the beauty of Biden is that he listens to his. Trump is looking for "loyalists" who will agree with him, so he can do whatever the hell he pleases.
We hear people acting as if Biden isn't currently the president and if he is elected things will fall into chaos as much as Trump will bring.

No. Biden has been managing the nation for 3.5 years, and despite some serious issues like the war in Ukraine and Gaza, and global inflation, the economy and global affairs are quite solid. Biden being elected will continue this work. No disruption. No new administration. No redirections in policies. No fears of what a disturbed Trump will do.

The inflation rate is coming down. Mortgage rates are coming down. Food prices are coming down. Gas prices are down. And all this is the consistency of a Biden administration doing competent work for Americans. What will a Trump do to stability?

One thing to consider is that when citizens are uncertain and fearful, they spend less.
 

Wirey

Fartist
^ so stupid on so many levels.

I want Biden out, and I do so in part because so many are so capable of reducing Biden v Trump to a choice between "two old, tired, confused men." It is a deeply flawed and grossly irresponsible talking point that is far more dangerous than a series of gaffs.
So stupid, huh?

Politics is perception. The perception that Biden is too old means that for most voters, the reality is that he's too old. They don't need to vote for Trump. They just need to decide a vote for Biden is pointless and stay home. This is the kind of thing you learn in Grade 12 Poli-Sci. If it's a deeply flawed argument, someone should have a chat with Obama and Pelosi and get them up to speed, quick.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
So stupid, huh?

Politics is perception. ...

Yes, very stupid, particularly your perception (which you pass of as an evaluation), namely:

This is the matchup folks. Two old, tired, confused men who need to beat each other down, and then face the entire planet.

It is hard to imagine a more shallow, more foolish, or more dangerous false equivalence.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It would create a natural checks and balances , but of course notable amount of conflict between the two leaders that cannot get along and can't compromise, but having two elects can be a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it.

It's an intriguing idea all the same as I'm not a huge fan of appointed government officials with some few exceptions here and there.

It would certainly change things, although it would be fundamentally similar to states which elect governor and lieutenant governor separately.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Yes, very stupid, particularly your perception (which you pass of as an evaluation), namely:



It is hard to imagine a more shallow, more foolish, or more dangerous false equivalence.
Yes, it is. That's why it's so widely reported as a prime concern of the Democratic Party. None of those guys have any idea what is really happening.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I can see why Europe is concerned. They are afraid of what will happen if Trump is elected, and they are afraid of what might happen if Biden is elected.

Today's press conference was quite sobering, to say the least.
I think the whole situation is very concerning…


“We are watching a raw display of political sharks circling their victim who has outlived his usefulness to the UniParty, and are now in the process of taking him down. No, I am not saying that something like this is unique to American politics, not at all, it’s gone on behind the scenes for a long time. But to see it playing out it real time with the curtain fully pulled backis quite astonishing. America is a nation teetering on the edge, a luxurious house built on the Malibu coastline whose ground underneath is nearly gone.”


 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Introduced the Ukrainian leader Zelenskyy as Putin...
Refers to his Vice President as Trump...
Says he is going to follow the advice of his Commander-in-Chief..
All on the same day!

Watch the usual lame excuses come forward to try to explain it away. And for the next time, the time after that , and after that.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What's worse: a person who occasionally slips when using his/her words or one who is called a "pathological liar" even by some current and former members of his own party and even some in his own family?
Biden is indeed well known for his many lies and strings of yarn. Not to mention his gift of sensitivity with dead people .
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Introduced the Ukrainian leader Zelenskyy as Putin...
Refers to his Vice President as Trump...
Says he is going to follow the advice of his Commander-in-Chief..
All on the same day!

Biden is clearly in decline. At some point, he may even sink to the level of making as many mistakes as Trump makes per day. Trump has even confused Nikki Haley and Nancy Pelosi. He also confused E Jean Carroll with Marla Maples, one of his former wives. The difference though is that Trump is more prone to telling lies and subsequently coming to believe that things he made up were reality. There is even a Wikipedia page devoted to this: False or misleading statements by Donald Trump.

When under pressure, Biden tends to make more gaffes and lose his train of thought. This kind of behavior happens to everyone from time to time, but it is more common in the elderly. The press conference did not inspire confidence, and it has led to more handwringing among Democrats, who seem powerless to convince him to relinquish his chokehold on the nomination. Every single questioner asked him about possibly withdrawing from the race and stepping aside for Vice President Harris. His response was that he thought he was the best candidate to beat Donald Trump, a belief that does not seem to be widespread among his supporters. The fact that he refuses to take any medical exam and release the results to reassure the public is very worrisome. Biden could just say that he will take any mental test that Donald Trump also takes, but I don't think either man thinks he would get a good result. Biden did sort of say that in passing while reporters were peppering him with questions, but he didn't say it clearly or repeat it.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Biden is clearly in decline. At some point, he may even sink to the level of making as many mistakes as Trump makes per day. Trump has even confused Nikki Haley and Nancy Pelosi. The difference though is that Trump is more prone to telling lies and subsequently coming to believe that things he made up were reality. There is even a Wikipedia page devoted to this: False or misleading statements by Donald Trump.

When under pressure, Biden tends to make more gaffes and lose his train of thought. This kind of behavior happens to everyone from time to time, but it is more common in the elderly. The press conference did not inspire confidence, and it has led to more handwringing among Democrats, who seem powerless to convince him to relinquish his chokehold on the nomination. Every single questioner asked him about possibly withdrawing from the race and stepping aside for Vice President Harris. His response was that he thought he was the best candidate to beat Donald Trump, a belief that does not seem to be widespread among his supporters. The fact that he refuses to take any medical exam and release the results to reassure the public is very worrisome. Biden could just say that he will take any mental test that Donald Trump also takes, but I don't think either man thinks he would get a good result.
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