"We have to protect the children!" (disclaimer: may not apply to LGBT, female, Muslim, etc kids)

[idav]

@Lvcifer Invictvs My point - and I know that this is going to strike nerves - is that the Left's use of "think of the children" is fervently tossed out when it comes to minority children, but when there's issue being put to "majority" demographics, it's ignored and swept under the rug, sometimes with startling hypocrisy. The Left uses "TotC" just as much as the Right, and both pitch their agendas as noble and just.


No, what's wretched is bringing up children when they're not actually a concern. Take the bathroom incident from a few years ago. Did the Right really care about children when they brought up "TotC"? No, their concern was sharing bathrooms with transsexuals. Children were a political hook. Do you think the Democrats using the Florida shooting to lobby for gun control care about the kids? No, their concern is their agenda concerning gun ownership and acquisition.

And before either issue is leapt into, drawing away from my point, my issue is that in either case (and others) children are used to push an agenda because they're a large emotional hook. No one would dare to argue against something when children are at stake, but how strong would the argument be if it was worded "think of the teachers"?


No, absolute hogwash and this has never been shown to be a valid cause. It's as flaccid as trying to use music as a motivator for violence. For example - and I know for absolute certain that I am not alone in this - I play really violent video games and listed to some pretty dark music. Want to know how many times I've had truly violent thoughts and intentions? Once, when I had just found out my father was being deployed to Iraq and a classmate thought it'd be funny to make jokes about him being killed.

"Violent" video games are not a cause for concern, and as an avid gamer this point is persistently tiresome. Though on-point, it's another line that grabs typically Democratic politicians (Hillary was a big one) to plead for us to "think of the children".

I agree with you regarding violent video games. I don’t know about Hillary, last person brought it up was Trump just recently after the FL shooting. Said maybe we need to look at violent videos and movies, perhaps have a rating system for it(Trumps words). Anyhow there is plenty to talk about was my point, and I will gladly discuss all reasoning and people disagree on what is a cause and what isn’t.

 

[SomeRandom]

I’m not really understanding? What is wretched about caring about children issues. Is it only a real concern when not bringing up children? Of course people are concerned about what makes a shooter t begin with, bad parenting, the school system, too much violent video games, gun access, bullying or mental illness are all valid concerns. Certainly people truly want to keep children safe, that isn’t just a political ploy.

Well violent video games aren't really a valid concern. And it absolutely is a political issue. A scapegoat trotted out by those (allegedly) who have received quite a bit of money from say the NRA. Again allegedly.
Violent video games are available worldwide. Oddly school shootings only seem to happen in one region of the developed world. Hmm.
Not saying anything about gun control or anything else. That's all up to y'all.
All I'm saying is perhaps focus on something that hasn't had the link between it and real life violence entirely and thoroughly debunked for decades now.
Rest of the concerns are understandable though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

My point - and I know that this is going to strike nerves - is that the Left's use of "think of the children" is fervently tossed out when it comes to minority children, but when there's issue being put to "majority" demographics, it's ignored and swept under the rug, sometimes with startling hypocrisy. The Left uses "TotC" just as much as the Right, and both pitch their agendas as noble and just.

I know what your point is. I was just pointing out that it's not a good example to use, is all.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I agree with you regarding violent video games. I don’t know about Hillary, last person brought it up was Trump just recently after the FL shooting. Said maybe we need to look at violent videos and movies, perhaps have a rating system for it(Trumps words).

My gods, he's a [REDACTED] idiot... Trump, that is. We have a rating system. How is he that dumb?

 

[esmith]

My gods, he's a [REDACTED] idiot... Trump, that is. We have a rating system. How is he that dumb?

How about you must be 21 or older to purchase video games and go to movies that exhorts extreme violence. Didn't I hear that the human brain wasn't developed/matured until around 25 years of age; so make it 25 so that the kiddies brain will not be unduly influenced by games and movies until their brains are more developed.

 

[idav]

My gods, he's a [REDACTED] idiot... Trump, that is. We have a rating system. How is he that dumb?

It's really up there with some of his blunders. I have no idea, some people like Trump really need to pause before opening their mouths.
Donald Trump Boldly Suggests Movies, Video Games Should Get a “Rating System”

Here is the full quote from Trump.
“We have to look at the Internet, because a lot of bad things are happening to young kids and young minds, and their minds are being formed. And we have to do something about maybe what they’re seeing and how they’re seeing it,” Trump said. “And also video games. I’m hearing more and more people say the level of violence in video games is really shaping young people’s thoughts. And then you go the further step and that’s the movies. You see these movies, they’re so violent and yet a kid is able to see a movie if sex isn’t involved, but killing is involved. Maybe they have to put a rating system for that.”

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

How about you must be 21 or older to purchase video games and go to movies that exhorts extreme violence.

Or - and just a crazy thought, I know - or, parents can be a bit more active in their kids lives. A 17 year old in general is more than capable of handing false "extreme violence", and this tendency to treat everyone like children until mid-20's is only causing more problems, in my opinion.