We know Armageddon is earthwide, so why does the Bible say it is at Megiddo?

[capumetu]

Thanks for the question, it gives me something to think about.

I also wonder, or suspect, that some of the scenes in Revelation describe events that God's People are not participants of.

Like these events describing Armageddon.

Like the events included in the vials.



I think Armageddon will result in the physical death of God's human enemies alive on earth at that time, but Satan and his angels will remain alive to witness the results of their actions.

I agree, "People of God will not fight in this battle.

So why does the Bible say it is at Tel Megiddo?

Arial view of Tel Megiddo:

It doesn't really look big enough to have a "pride" parade like the one they have in Tel Aviv.

I tend to consider this is like you say: "Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

I don't see this like the old Hal Lindsey model where the Great River Euphrates actually dries up, and the Kings from the east are the Asian Armies.

People are not going to be able to just sit back and watch this on video news channels.

I tend to think this is happening, or unfolding now, in a symbolic fashion.

"And the demonic spirits gathered all the rulers and their armies to a place with the Hebrew name Armageddon .​

It's not just any battle, but the ultimate battle, of every single living person alive in the world, against God when He Arrives.

My understanding, which is still unfolding and due for a major edit, is that the assembly for this battle has begun.

I'll stick my neck out here and show what might be a glimpse, or an example of the kings of the earth gathering the people to fight against God.

An example of Paul's falling away that eventually results with Armageddon, all the tribes of the Earth, at war with God:

1) The Netherlands (2000)
2) Belgium (2003)
3) Canada (2005)
4) Spain (2005)
5) South Africa (2006)
6) Norway (2009)
7) Sweden (2009)
8) Argentina (2010)
9) Iceland (2010)
10) Portugal (2010)
11) Denmark (2012)
12) Brazil (2013)
13) England and Wales (2013)
14) France (2013)
15) New Zealand (2013)
16) Uruguay (2013)
17) Luxembourg (2014)
18) Scotland (2014)
19) Finland: (signed 2015, effective 2017)
20) Ireland: (2015)
21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 days------->Sun/Moon.
21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 days------->EofW.

Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results​

This list ended with an event which God in Leviticus calls an abomination, separated by 1290 days, which was punctuated by a solar eclipse and a moon which did not give it's light

Armageddon won't culminate until Christ's Second Visitation, but the hall is chosen, and the chairs are rented.

I suspect we wait for a few more guests, some of our brothers and our fellow servants have been delayed.

The show can't begin without them:

Peaceful Sabbath.

Christ's second coming is actually the battle sir, thanks for your well thought out post

 

[capumetu]

Megiddo ..... a seriously one sided action taken against those that will appose the kingdom

I fully agree, only one outcome for sure.

 

[capumetu]

I believe that the actual meaning of the word Meggido is place of or gathering of troops and I agree it is used in a symbolic sense because so many decisive battles occurred there and according to scripture the final battle will certainly be decisive.
As recent as 1918 it was the scene of the defeat of Turkish forces by the British under General Allenby.

Thanks for the input Sandy.

 

[capumetu]

Allegedly penned the word. Nobody actually knows who the author of Revelations is.

I do, the author is Jehovah, the penman is the Apostle John, Chap 1 verse 1

 

[capumetu]

Don't take biblical prophecy and history literally. At best it's metaphorical and symbolical.

In this case Sun, I believe you can take it as literal.

 

[capumetu]

You actually pray for Armageddon to come?????

Sure, all Christians do. Have you personally ever asked God for His Kingdom to come? Mat 6:10

 

[capumetu]

Perhaps because in the end, all nations will go against Israel?

Not against Israel, but God Rev 16:14. They are gathering now.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Sure, all Christians do. Have you personally ever asked God for His Kingdom to come? Mat 6:10

yeah, sure in the lord's prayer. but are you really hoping for hundreds of millions of people to die in the process in WW3 and armageddon?????

 

[cataway]

yeah, sure in the lord's prayer. but are you really hoping for hundreds of millions of people to die in the process in WW3 and Armageddon?????

rather see hundreds of millions recognize the error of their way and be saved from destruction. it is their choice . we can show you the waters of life but we cant make them drink

 

[Twilight Hue]

I do, the author is Jehovah, the penman is the Apostle John, Chap 1 verse 1

Someone wrote it. Maybe a person named John, but it's not confirmed nor conclusive that it's the case.


I understand it's your personal conviction and that fine. Just its not my take on the matter since archeology has no information that is conclusive to support those assumptions.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

rather see hundreds of millions recognize the error of their way and be saved from destruction. it is their choice . we can show you the waters of life but we cant make them drink

Yeah, you'd rather see them come to Jesus but that still doesn't change the reality that hundreds of millions will die without him. I don't know why anybody would hope for something that brings that about.

 

[blü 2]

Lose sleep maam? We pray for it to come, likely you have as well.

I didn't lose sleep over Hans Christian Andersen, I didn't lose sleep over Harry Potter, and I won't lose sleep over any of this ─ ahm ─ stuff.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Who ever wrote Revelation had a very poor understanding of Jesus teaching.

What ever he was "on" twisted his mind. and gave him very strange hallucinations.

The early church took eschatology very seriously. As did those groups of Judaeo-Christians who formulated and followed the Didache. However they were not as fanciful about it as the writer of Revelation.

 

[capumetu]

yeah, sure in the lord's prayer. but are you really hoping for hundreds of millions of people to die in the process in WW3 and armageddon?????

No seek, quite the contrary 2 Pet 3:9. That is the primary reason we have taken the Kingdom message to the ends of the earth, so that people can stand with God and gain life.

We are not ignorant about what we pray for as well, all Christians fully know that the vast majority of the population will side with satan, as is clearly seen today. Jesus openly stated that those who would be saved are few, but the good news is, it is open to all. You personally choose life or death, however there are requirements for those who want to stand on Jehovah's side. But do not fear, for those of us who love Him, His commandments are not burdensome 1 Jn 5:3

 

[capumetu]

Who ever wrote Revelation had a very poor understanding of Jesus teaching.

What ever he was "on" twisted his mind. and gave him very strange hallucinations.

The early church took eschatology very seriously. As did those groups of Judaeo-Christians who formulated and followed the Didache. However they were not as fanciful about it as the writer of Revelation.

Strange sir, Revelation is actually from Jesus' own mouth, did you never read the opening words? Perhaps the understanding of Jesus' teaching was not his misunderstanding, rather the interpreters don't you think?

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

No seek, quite the contrary 2 Pet 3:9. That is the primary reason we have taken the Kingdom message to the ends of the earth, so that people can stand with God and gain life.

We are not ignorant about what we pray for as well, all Christians fully know that the vast majority of the population will side with satan, as is clearly seen today. Jesus openly stated that those who would be saved are few, but the good news is, it is open to all. You personally choose life or death, however there are requirements for those who want to stand on Jehovah's side. But do not fear, for those of us who love Him, His commandments are not burdensome 1 Jn 5:3

A god who can only save a few and must damn the rest is a pretty feeble god, wouldn't you agree? I don't buy the excuse that it is man's free will that condemns him and the Christian god gets off scott-free for any responsibility for a soul's destruction. Any father that cannot save their child from destruction is helpless at best and malevolent at worst. Assuming you have children, wouldn't you have done everything in your power to keep your child safe from destruction when s/he was a child? Or would you have said, "You have to ask for my help first before I can help you." This is why the Christian religious model doesn't make sense. The idea that a god is helpless to save someone unless they first say, "Please save me" and then on top of that demand that first they must accept Jesus as their savior before he will lift a finger to help them is so outrageous to the rational mind i.e. one not deceived by religious dogma that it doesn't even merit second consideration.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Strange sir, Revelation is actually from Jesus' own mouth, did you never read the opening words? Perhaps the understanding of Jesus' teaching was not his misunderstanding, rather the interpreters don't you think?

I personally do not believe anything about "Revellation is true, I do not believe it should even be in the Bible.
They should have stuck with their first selection and left it out.

 

[1213]

...but God Rev 16:14. They are gathering now.

I think that is also true at the same time.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

The Bible of course was written to and for God's people to prepare them for current events, or prophetically for future events. When John penned the word Armageddon, Jehovah's people were very familiar of the many battles that had been fought in the area of Megiddo. Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

It is noteworthy that the battle of Armageddon will result in the destruction of God's enemies, but the salvation of those who love God. People of God will not fight in this battle, the Bible shows that Jesus and his powerful angels will be the ones who fight this battle. 2 Thes 1:6-9

Even though the battle in the material plain may happen in a specific location, the spiritual battle released is universal.

The view that World war One is fulfillment of Biblical Prophecy, stands on strong ground.

General Allenby who fought one of the last Battles of WW1 in the Plains of Meggedo, before winning back Jerusalem and Haifa, did believe He was fighting in the light of that Prophecy. There is a lot to that story many do not know about.

One of the orders General Allenby had was to 'Save Abdul'baha'. Quite an amazing order, given what that means to the Message given by Baha'u'llah.

Regards Tony

 

[capumetu]

I think that is also true at the same time.

Thanks sir, the time is near for sure.