We need a return to biblical morality

[Christian Gnosis]

What this country needs is a return to true Biblical morality. Not some modern, watered down, pick-and-choose so-called morals, but true Bible-based morality.

To begin with, slavery needs to be re instituted, as God decreed for us. Who are we to prohibit what He has decreed for us? According to God's word, we may buy, sell and inherit foreigners as slaves. This could help with the Guantanamo problem, and would go a long way to solving the illegal immigration problem.

Second, and really even more important, is defending the institution of marriage, which is under attack in modern America. True, there is no Biblical prohibition against same-sex marriage. But the Bible makes it clear that marriage is between a man and one or more women. It's time for America to legalize polygamy, in accordance with God's holy word.

On the other hand, divorce is wrong, and violates God's commandment, as given to us by His son, Jesus Christ. It's time to rise up and repeal all divorce laws, except possibly in case of infidelity. What God has decreed for us is to keep the first wife, while adding more wives as we wish.

Christians, will you join me in restoring God's moral order to America?

You know, it's no wonder no one is taking this thread seriously.

 

[Autodidact]

You know, it's no wonder no one is taking this thread seriously.

You're right, of course, Christians don't often take the Bible seriously. Which may be a good thing.

 

[Christian Gnosis]

You're right, of course, Christians don't often take the Bible seriously. Which may be a good thing.

Take it seriously, or take it entirely literally? I do take it quite seriously in a spiritual sense.

 

[Autodidact]

Take it seriously, or take it entirely literally? I do take it quite seriously in a spiritual sense.

What does this mean?
So when the Bible says that we may own slaves, you don't think it means we may own slaves? How do you go about deciding what it means?

 

[Christian Gnosis]

What does this mean?
So when the Bible says that we may own slaves, you don't think it means we may own slaves? How do you go about deciding what it means?

Okay firstly, the slaves thing. The Torah permits the owning of slaves. Gnostics have nothing to do with the Old Testament. Secondly, many fundamentalists may feel comfortable ignoring textual criticism and scholarship for Bible literalism, but I'm not. In all likelihood, Paul didn't write the book of Ephesians, which exhorts slaves to obey their masters. Philemon, one of the books modern scholars believes Paul did write, says Paul ordered Philemon to release his slave, because a person belongs to Christ.

 

[Autodidact]

With all due respect, and being almost completely ignorant of the subject, wouldn't it be fair to say that Gnostic Christianity is so far from Orthodox Christianity that the latter would likely not accept is being the same religion?

 

[Christian Gnosis]

With all due respect, and being almost completely ignorant of the subject, wouldn't it be fair to say that Gnostic Christianity is so far from Orthodox Christianity that the latter would likely not accept is being the same religion?

Many may feel that way yes.

 

[Christian Gnosis]

Auto what one needs to understand though is that Gnostic and Orthodox Christianity are forever intertwined. Nothing can seperate the two. In the early church there were both Orthodox and Gnostic bishops because early Christian belief wasn't clearcut. Marcion the Gnostic was the first to collect all the letters of Paul, a figure important to both Orthodox and Gnostic Christians. The New Testament has been preserved and brought down to us today by the effort of the Orthodox Church. To Gnostics the New Testament is important. Never think it isn't. The New Testament is a collection of traditional accounts, just as the Gnostic texts are traditional accounts, and I'm sure there's truth in both. I see much truth in the New Testament. Also with modern Gnostics, many of us attend churches for the sacrament, because taking the sacrament is part of Gnostic belief. Lots who are baptized and attend Catholic and Anglican churches may hold Gnostic beliefs. It'd surprise you. I attend mass a few times a year to recieve the sacrament.

 

[JohnOB]

What this country needs is a return to true Biblical morality.

Otherwise "this country" will possesses Islamic morality, maybe in five or seven decades.

 

[Rakhel]

What this country needs is a return to true Biblical morality. Not some modern, watered down, pick-and-choose so-called morals, but true Bible-based morality.

To begin with, slavery needs to be re instituted, as God decreed for us. Who are we to prohibit what He has decreed for us? According to God's word, we may buy, sell and inherit foreigners as slaves. This could help with the Guantanamo problem, and would go a long way to solving the illegal immigration problem.

Second, and really even more important, is defending the institution of marriage, which is under attack in modern America. True, there is no Biblical prohibition against same-sex marriage. But the Bible makes it clear that marriage is between a man and one or more women. It's time for America to legalize polygamy, in accordance with God's holy word.

On the other hand, divorce is wrong, and violates God's commandment, as given to us by His son, Jesus Christ. It's time to rise up and repeal all divorce laws, except possibly in case of infidelity. What God has decreed for us is to keep the first wife, while adding more wives as we wish.

Christians, will you join me in restoring God's moral order to America?

I was starting to think you'd gone of the deep end.

 

[McBell]

Otherwise "this country" will possesses Islamic morality, maybe in five or seven decades.

You know what?
I honestly believe that I would welcome Islam morality over the current Christian hypocrisy.
If for nothing more than the sake of variety.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

You know what?
I honestly believe that I would welcome Islam morality over the current Christian hypocrisy.
If for nothing more than the sake of variety.

I would too, because at least in an Islamic system I'd be allowed to keep my religion and live, albiet as a second class citizen. From history, Pagans are not allowed to live in Christian systems.

 

[Blackdog22]

What about murder on Sundays? Why isn't that included? I personally can't think of anything better than getting out of Church and um... laying waste?.. to the millions of people working on Sunday for their families. All in the rememberance and respect of God as he once was, before he got soft.

 

[Autodidact]

Otherwise "this country" will possesses Islamic morality, maybe in five or seven decades.

So you agree with the OP, we need to reinstitute slavery, outlaw divorce, and permit polygamy?

 

[Autodidact]

What about murder on Sundays? Why isn't that included? I personally can't think of anything better than getting out of Church and um... laying waste?.. to the millions of people working on Sunday for their families. All in the rememberance and respect of God as he once was, before he got soft.

Well certainly anyone who works on the Sabbath day, which is Saturday, btw, should be stoned to death.

 

[LuisDantas]

You know what?
I honestly believe that I would welcome Islam morality over the current Christian hypocrisy.
If for nothing more than the sake of variety.

Indeed. If nothing else, that would give many people a good opportunity for reflection about how arbitrary those things are. And also on how Muslim and Christian approaches to morality can learn and improve themselves from each other's experience, particularly on matters of marriage and family.

 

[waitasec]

Indeed. If nothing else, that would give many people a good opportunity for reflection about how arbitrary those things are. And also on how Muslim and Christian approaches to morality can learn and improve themselves from each other's experience, particularly on matters of marriage and family.

i can't help but notice only men wouldn't object to it





well just 3 so far..

 

[LuisDantas]

I'm not sure it wouldn't be a welcome change for women either, waitasec. Of course, it remains to be seen how much of current women civil rights would suffer under a hypothetical Muslim majority.

Then again, it is hard enough to raise taxes, so I wouldn't expect significant tendencies "of putting women back in the kitchen where they belong" or anything similar.

Poliandry would probably be a good change as well. It is not like strict monogamy is exactly a cherished fact of life for most people, after all. Actually having the means for recognizing a second, third and fourth wives and their respective rights is hardly a drawback.

Ultimately, Muslim-inspired changes can only happen if the community decides to tolerate them.

And if that is not enough to convince you, then just consider: Free Fridays!