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Weapons in Sacred Spaces.

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Would you attend a sacred space on a regular basis where you, or someone, had to carry a weapon?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
What's a sacred space? A dirty nightclub with a loud punk band playing. Must admit that is better than sacred.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
In the past during certain group rituals I used an original Indo-Persian demon head mace, it looked great but have since traded it off- wish I still had it.
Not a picture of the one I had but it looked very similar to this:
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Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It once came up that the baptist Church down the road from my house, the deacons occasionally are packin' heat (not that you could ever tell). Little do people realize, their deacons are not just there to greet people. They are also security of sorts, although discrete ones at that.

It's better than the one charismatic church a town over, where they wear openly "security" shirts and have cameras everywhere. But that place is more like an activity center and not really a Church. Smells of self aware conmen. I've never seen a church in person that sent my redflags off like that one. I don't think they got guns though. I think they are just tough people

That's about the extent I'm aware of of security in churches in my town out of literally dozens. I don't think any other churches have anyone armed than the one. Obviously I don't go in Christian churches unless there is a good reason to (like for someone else). The UU church I sporadically go to sometimes has no security but the last person out is to make sure no one is in the building then lock up. That's about the extent of it.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I regularly do.

"Away from his weapons in the open field
A man should fare not a foot;
For never he knows when the need for a spear
Shall arise on the distant road."
~Hávamál s.38

But I think it's bad juju to bring a weapon into the space consecrated for a blót or sumbel, or even in your own shrine area. When I found this out I removed my seax from Thor's altar and kept the seax elsewhere.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
But I think it's bad juju to bring a weapon into the space consecrated for a blót or sumbel, or even in your own shrine area. When I found this out I removed my seax from Thor's altar and kept the seax elsewhere.
I've never heard that, nor find reason for it to be true; must have been a personal thing from whoever told you that. I know many Wiccans tend to be skeevish about actual weapons, despite the atheme being a literal dagger. The only notion similar that I can think of is not bearing weapons against your Kindred, or leaving personal weapons by the door of a moot or peace-gathering. Even then, they're still within reach, and some Kindreds are totally fine with carried weapons remaining in holster.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I've never heard that, nor find reason for it to be true; must have been a personal thing from whoever told you that.

Very possibly... y'know everyone is "doing it wrong". :D

The only notion similar that I can think of is not bearing weapons against your Kindred, or leaving personal weapons by the door of a moot or peace-gathering. Even then, they're still within reach, and some Kindreds are totally fine with carried weapons remaining in holster.

That may be it... in order to keep frith. Mead, boasts, oaths made or broken, sharpened steel... do the math. :D
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Very possibly... y'know everyone is "doing it wrong".
Gods, do I ever know that... LOL

That may be it... in order to keep frith. Mead, boasts, oaths made or broken, sharpened steel... do the math.
I would think it more to be a rule enforced in larger gatherings--All-things, as it were. If you've got a group of eight or so who really know one another, it's not a big deal.
 

Japle

Member
I never go anywhere unarmed.
On the other hand, I don’t have any reason to go to a church unless I’m playing a concert.
Two weeks ago yesterday, I played at a church. I was carrying a compact .45 under my tuxedo jacket.

Here’s the thing: You don’t get to choose when or where you’re going to be attacked. That decision is made by your attacker. Just ask the people who were in that church in Texas.
So, it makes sense to be ready all the time. You’ll probably never be attacked, but it’s not something you can control.

Be ready.
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
What in the blood-soaked Protestant Hell is a "sacred space" if its anything like a "safe space" burn it the Hell down.
 
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