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Well over Half of Rape Reports are false, according to Bavarian Police Report

linwood

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Just offhand I'd bet:
C - the reasons listed for false accusation in the article are clues to the social climate in Bavaria. If it's a big social risk for a woman to have sex outside of marriage, accusations of false rape are likely to be one side effect.

That`s what I was thinking.
There are probably cultural factors most of us aren`t aware of.

I do believe there is a high instance of "false" rape accusations due to my own personal experience though.

I wonder where I might find numbers without the Bavarian cultural bias or at least a cultural bias I understand?

:)
 

beenie

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Just offhand I'd bet:

A - those estimations are high.
B - the number of actual rapes is equally underreported. (Of course, that doesn't make false accusation right.)
C - the reasons listed for false accusation in the article are clues to the social climate in Bavaria. If it's a big social risk for a woman to have sex outside of marriage, accusations of false rape are likely to be one side effect.

Where are those frubals when I need them? Nicely put.
 

Panda

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I think the problems are:

  1. Real rapes go unreported due to women being in fear of their attackers
  2. False accusation often occur after both parties end up extremely drunk and have sex.
 

Father Heathen

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Real rapes go unreported due to women being in fear of their attackers

This never made sense to me. How would their attacker pose a bigger threat while locked up than they would while free? It's unfortunate, because silence only serves to reward and reinforce the rapist and to aide and abide their next attack.
 

Flankerl

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At first i was confused because i've never heard about this.
Then i realised that its from 2005.

People lie, whats the big deal?
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
This never made sense to me. How would their attacker pose a bigger threat while locked up than they would while free? It's unfortunate, because silence only serves to reward and reinforce the rapist and to aide and abide their next attack.

Well, there's a lot of shame involved for victims of rape, as well as pervasive victim-blaming. I've never been raped, but the few molestation occurrences that happened in childhood and adolescence I never told a single person about until I was an adult. The men who did it were adults, and I figured people would believe them and not me. And I felt really embarrassed to think about it, much less tell another person.
 

beenie

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This never made sense to me. How would their attacker pose a bigger threat while locked up than they would while free? It's unfortunate, because silence only serves to reward and reinforce the rapist and to aide and abide their next attack.

You're assuming the attacker would be prosecuted. Rape isn't always easy to prove, especially if the victim isn't supported immediately after the attack. She will live in extreme fear if, after reporting the attack, the rapist is acquitted because of some technicality or lack of evidence.

It would be ideal if rape victims could report rapes without the questioning of her behavior, dress, etc. Some of that questioning begins with those she's closest too before it even becomes a police/legal matter.
 

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
So the question then becomes how many rapes are not reported, how many rapes are fake, dreadful allegations, and how (if possible) do we solve each problem?
 

beenie

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So the question then becomes how many rapes are not reported, how many rapes are fake, dreadful allegations, and how (if possible) do we solve each problem?

It's unknown how many are not reported, but I suspect the number is quite high. In fact, I know three women myself who were clearly raped, yet didn't report it.

How to solve it? Rewire society's brain to getting rid of the "shame" factor, and find a way to make people (including police and the justice system) stop blaming the victim. Unfortunately, family members and friends may add to the shame, especially in certain cultures. :(

As for false reports, I'm not sure on the stats for that either, but I sure hope that the "innocent until proven guilty" part of our laws will help there.

It's really hard to prove a "false allegation" as well. As I said earlier, just because she can't "prove" it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

O.J. anyone?
 

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
It's unknown how many are not reported, but I suspect the number is quite high. In fact, I know three women myself who were clearly raped, yet didn't report it.

How to solve it? Rewire society's brain to getting rid of the "shame" factor, and find a way to make people (including police and the justice system) stop blaming the victim. Unfortunately, family members and friends may add to the shame, especially in certain cultures. :(

As for false reports, I'm not sure on the stats for that either, but I sure hope that the "innocent until proven guilty" part of our laws will help there.

It's really hard to prove a "false allegation" as well. As I said earlier, just because she can't "prove" it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

O.J. anyone?

The problem with fake rape allegations is that even if the point is unproven, men are often ostracized from their community and families if a woman makes such remarks. I wish there was a way to penalize those idiots while soothing actual victims enough to get them to come out and stop real criminals from repeating their crimes.
 
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