Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
I personally see more evidence for allegorical/mythological Jesus than any historical one, yet the idea that muhhumad didn't exist is new. There is a metric ****ton of historical data on that guy.
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Were Jesus and Muhammad insane?
- Thread starter Cobol
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No, it doesn't state that. Just keep proving that you didn't bother to read the article, and still haven't!
You're the one getting uppity. I'm just telling you what the article you posted and didn't read says. Lol. By the way, I have mental health issues and am in treatment for them, but delusions aren't one of my issues. Don't act like you're my doctor, caseworker or therapist, because you're not. My problem with this thread, besides its overall stupidity, is that it's insulting and anti-scientific. You haven't the faintest clue on this subject. I also plan to have a career in mental health (as in, getting a Ph.D eventually, not playing around online and randomly Googling stuff, like you), so this topic is one that I'm very knowledgeable about.
Cobol
Code Jockey
I have, your obviously not comprehending what it said.
Obviously not or you wouldn't be attempting to challenge the subject. Your just sensitive to the topic, because there is tons of information about this subject. I hit a nerve with you. Don't be so sensitive. I have MI also, by the way.
No, I'm challenging the subject because you're simply wrong. Refuting you is not being "sensitive". It's called debating.
Cobol
Code Jockey
Research that you didn't even bother to read and don't know what it says.
Enjoy your meal.
Geoff-Allen
Resident megalomaniac
Two things.
One, I functioned just fine for quite a while, thank you. Not every case of schizophrenia, or type of psychosis, renders you a screaming or drooling invalid.
Two, the world was different and standards for "functioning" were also different. Far different. If you could do a simple task and cook food, you "functioned" for most of human history.
I never claimed that it necessarily made you a certain way. But schizophrenia tends to have a negative impact on functioning. However, you must take each case as individual.
Each society has different standards for functioning. They weren't living in the Stone Age.
No, they weren't, but lifestyles did not radically change until very recently. I'm talking "industrial revolution" recently. Barring the language barrier and you kept the climate & locale relatively similar, your average Roman peasant would have zero problems if he were made to live in 16th century Europe.
There were plenty of people throughout history who were mentally ill, some extremely so, and they survived just fine. Jesus having low level(or low-frequency) hallucinations or delusions wouldn't impact his life severely, and if anything would like up with the Biblical account of how he was treated by both the Jewish leaders and Roman bureaucrats.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
And skeptics are born cynical.
Cobol
Code Jockey
What is so preposterous about encouraging people 2 love thy neighbour?
I'm referring to the claims that they performed miracles.
Well, you'll have to take that up with historians. There are always some loops who don't believe Jesus existed at all, but you really also don't think that Muhammad existed as a warlord who founded Islam?
Certainly if they truly believed something demonstably false. I think you'll have a difficult time showing that.
Also, your ideas of mental health seem somewhat shallow, indicative of being informed by a general psych class and little more.
Cobol
Code Jockey
Considering the fact that you are ignorant to my lifetime of knowledge on this subject, your statement is absurd and foolish.
Cobol
Code Jockey
Arabic sources for the life of Muhammad are very late, tendentious, and unsupported by any archaeological or epigraphic evidence, while the non-Islamic sources are scant and ambiguous.
This thread is not about Muhammad's non existence.
Nice share.
I am working on my second degree in psychology and towards a doctorate. I don't know how much, if any, training you've had, but, I can and did address your expression of such. Which was wanting.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Very true. There are numerous individuals who make such grandiose claims in this day and age and no one takes them seriously. It's because we now understand mental illness far better that they did millennia ago. We don't consider them to be possessed or demons or messengers from God, we understand that they are simply people suffering from mental disorders. If Jesus and Mohammad were alive today they'd either be homeless and living in some alley or in an asylum somewhere.