WH: Trump was 'exhausted' when he said 'Islamic extremism'

[leibowde84]

Now to me, as an ignorant non-Muslim living in the United States, I don't quite understand whether this Trump mistake was really that big of a deal. But, I would love to hear from Muslims about how they feel about it.

Basically, as a politician it is important to use the term "Islamist Extremism" instead of "Islamic Extremism". Islamism is political islam, which would be the correct term to describe terrorist groups that identify as Muslim. But, during his speech in Saudi Arabia, Trump mistakenly (he admitted this was a mistake) said "Islamic Extremism" because "he was exhausted".

So, RF Muslims (or anyone else I guess), how do you feel about this?

 

[Quetzal]

Maybe I am missing something, but I also do not see this as a big deal.

 

[Revoltingest]

Maybe I am missing something, but I also do not see this as a big deal.

Aye, I'm fine with "Islamic extremism".
It is indeed a problem.

Note:
I am fine with the label....not the extremism itself.
(I'm glad I caught this before someone called me a Muslim terrorist.)

 

[columbus]

Maybe I am missing something, but I also do not see this as a big deal.

Much as I dislike Trump I can't care about this.
I am just not able.
Tom

 

[Kemosloby]

I care. I don't know if I can sleep at night since Trump said "Islamic Extremism" instead of "Islamist Extremism".

 

[Revoltingest]

A good quote indeed

One which will haunt me to me grave!

 

[columbus]

One which will haunt me to me grave!

Not like some posts might.

Tom

 

[Falvlun]

I honestly didn't know there was a difference.

 

[leibowde84]

Islamist extremists and Islamic extremists may as well be synonymous as far as I am concerned.
One does not become extreme without also being political.

That is the point of the differentiation. Islamism is political Islam.

 

[beenie]

As much as I'd love to rake Trump over the coals, I can't with this. Islam is an all-encompassing faith, which includes politics. To the extent its practitioners take it is a whole other issue.

The term is irrelavent. The fact we have to label such acts is the bigger issue at hand.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

They mean almost exactly the same thing.

Islamist Extremism Vs. Islamic Extremism

The only difference is the suffix on Islam.

-ist: denote a person who practices or is concerned with something, or holds certain principles, doctrines, etc.

-ic: used as an adjective-forming suffix with the particular senses “having some characteristics of"

the definition of -ic

The only real differences is that Islamist refers to a person while Islamic is descriptive and it modifies extremism. In English I don't think anyone is going to consider it significant, but maybe something happens in the translation.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Btw, Obama once said he visited 57 states in the US, while he was exhausted from campaigning. Stuff like that happens.

 

[fantome profane]

I don't care but I do find it hilarious that they are no so sensitive to the use of these specific words. Theses specific words that they were so critical of Obama and Clinton for not using, and now they are afraid to use them themselves.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Now to me, as an ignorant non-Muslim living in the United States, I don't quite understand whether this Trump mistake was really that big of a deal. But, I would love to hear from Muslims about how they feel about it.

Basically, as a politician it is important to use the term "Islamist Extremism" instead of "Islamic Extremism". Islamism is political islam, which would be the correct term to describe terrorist groups that identify as Muslim. But, during his speech in Saudi Arabia, Trump mistakenly (he admitted this was a mistake) said "Islamic Extremism" because "he was exhausted".

So, RF Muslims (or anyone else I guess), how do you feel about this?

I feel that many people can not only not see the forest for the trees, but they also can't see the trees for being unable to tear their gaze away from their navels.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I am just gonna go with the idea it is a translation thing, but they could just say extremist.

 

[leibowde84]

and my point is that when the word extreme is next to the word I see the word difference as redundant.

Oh. That makes sense. Sorry for the confusion on my part.

 

[leibowde84]

I feel that many people can not only not see the forest for the trees, but they also can't see the trees for being unable to tear their gaze away from their navels.

What do you mean?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

What do you mean?

Some people get endlessly bogged down and distracted by irrelevancies because they lose sight that information gathering is only useful when the information is useful or substantive.

 

[leibowde84]

Some people get endlessly bogged down and distracted by irrelevancies because they lose sight that information gathering is only useful when the information is useful or substantive.

Forgive me, but what does that have to do with the OP specifically?

 

[columbus]

Forgive me, but what does that have to do with the OP specifically?

Pardon me for responding to a question directed @Kilgore Trout .

But I see this issue as similar to #BLM getting upset because the latest "suicide by cop" celebrity is referred to as colored, instead of black.
Tom