What about the world today indicates to apocalyptic Christians that this is the actual end time?

[Faithofchristian]

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled."

2018 and still nothing.

It's evidence that you have no idea or clue, what generation Jesus was referring to.

Whether you want to accept it or not, We are that generation, That everything that Jesus gave Prophecy about and including the book of Revelation is now happening.

 

[qaz]

It's evidence that you have no idea or clue, what generation Jesus was referring to.

Whether you want to accept it or not, We are that generation, That everything that Jesus gave Prophecy about and including the book of Revelation is now happening.

when his disciples asked him "WHEN" jesus' prophecies would have taken place, he answered this:

ἡ γενεὰ αὕτη

are you born in the 1st century? if "this generation" means "any future generation" there is no "when".

 

[Faithofchristian]

But however, if those Christians understood the book of Revelation, then they might get it right.

But as it is, they just keep putting their agenda out there, and it just keeps coming back a failure.
A person would stop and think, what are we doing wrong. But as it is, they just keep going, failure after another failure.

If you hear those Christians they will say that Jesus is coming before the tribulation,
I beg your pardon, Jesus can not come until the last Prophecy of the book of Revelation happens First, That by the time the last Prophecy of Revelation happens, the Tribulation is over, So what good is your Rapture going to do you ?

 

[Faithofchristian]

when his disciples asked him "WHEN" jesus' prophecies would have taken place, he answered this:

ἡ γενεὰ αὕτη

are you born in the 1st century? if "this generation" means "any future generation" there is no "when".

As to where do you get the 1st century at.

Jesus never made any mentioning of the
1st century. So how do you come by it ?

Jesus disciples came to him, saying to Jesus " Tell us, when shall these things be?

Then Jesus proceeded, to give them the Prophecy of the end time. Which we are now living in, All the Prophecies that Jesus has given in Matthew 24, Mark 13
and Luke 21and the book of Revelation, are now coming to be fulfilled.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Whether you want to accept it or not, We are that generation,

Prove it.

 

[qaz]

As to where do you get the 1st century at.

Jesus never made any mentioning of the
1st century. So how do you come by it ?

Jesus disciples came to him, saying to Jesus " Tell us, when shall these things be?

Then Jesus proceeded, to give them the Prophecy of the end time. Which we are now living in, All the Prophecies that Jesus has given in Matthew 24, Mark 13
and Luke 21and the book of Revelation, are now coming to be fulfilled.

his disciples asked him about
1) the signs of the second coming (which he gave, in a very aspecific way).
2) the timing of the second coming. and he answered "this generation". if by "this generation" he meant "anytime" that would be completely idiotic - infact the primitive christians believed that it would be a matter of years. there is a whole soteriological literature about it. then the later exegesists (e.g. origen) begun interpreting it as a "coming of christ in the heart" of individuals.

 

[qaz]

"According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep"

1 Thessalonians 4:15

 

[Faithofchristian]

Prove it.

Well it's evidence that Jesus was not talking about his time or the time of the disciple.
If you read Mark 13:8, where Jesus said "And there shall be earthquakes in divers places"
It's evidence that there has been more earthquakes and hurricanes and tornadoes in our life time, than any other life time.

That even now scientist are saying how the plates under the world's biggest Giant volcano in Yellowstone Wyoming National Park are starting to shift for some unknown reason, which can erupt at any time, that all it's going to take, which eventually will happen is a earthquake to hit there causing that Giant volcano to erupt, which will cause Devastation around the world.and the taking out half of the United States.
Causing hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes in the likes, that has never happened in our modern times and around the world.
Stay Tune

 

[Faithofchristian]

"According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep"

1 Thessalonians 4:15

Do you have any idea or clue, what it means ---"Prevent them which are asleep"

Who are those"which are asleep"

 

[qaz]

Do you have any idea or clue, what it means ---"Prevent them which are asleep"

Who are those"which are asleep"

the dead , of course.
he is saying that the living of that time ,who will see the second coming, won't have any privilege* over the dead people (which are called "asleep" in accordance with the general meaning of the text - the resurrection , et cetera).
"asleep" translates the ancient greek κοιμηθέντας which comes from κοιμάομαι and means "to fall asleep" and "to be dead".


*in judaism there are many kinds of supposed privileges concerning the day of the resurrection. (e.g. jews traditionally had their burial in the cemetery of the mount of olives beacuse they think the rise of the bodies will begin over there).

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Well it's evidence that Jesus was not talking about his time or the time of the disciple.
If you read Mark 13:8, where Jesus said "And there shall be earthquakes in divers places"
It's evidence that there has been more earthquakes and hurricanes and tornadoes in our life time, than any other life time.

That even now scientist are saying how the plates under the world's biggest Giant volcano in Yellowstone Wyoming National Park are starting to shift for some unknown reason, which can erupt at any time, that all it's going to take, which eventually will happen is a earthquake to hit there causing that Giant volcano to erupt, which will cause Devastation around the world.and the taking out half of the United States.
Causing hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes in the likes, that has never happened in our modern times and around the world.
Stay Tune

So basically "trust me".

 

[allright]

Israel is a nation again Jesus has to return to Israel as King

Wickedness is multiplied

Christians are turning away from Jesus in huge numbers

The Roman empire is reforming as a united Europe

 

[Buddha Dharma]

I'm sure the Apocalypse will occur at some point. I'm just very skeptical of people who claim it's imminent because they say so.

You're a Catholic though, so I'm sure you must be aware that there are views of the Parousia that don't involve a literal return at all. I believe Pierre Teilhard de Chardin for example believed in an unfolding of the kingdom on earth as time goes on. Coincidentally, I'm only aware of de Chardin because I encountered him in a fiction work and looked up the name.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You're a Catholic though, so I'm sure you must be aware that there are views of the Parousia that don't involve a literal return at all. I believe Pierre Teilhard de Chardin for example believed in an unfolding of the kingdom on earth as time goes on. Coincidentally, I'm only aware of de Chardin because I encountered him in a fiction work and looked up the name.

I don't think our species will exist forever. At the point we become extinct, that will be the apocalypse, for all practical purposes. I don't believe it will necessarily unfold as a literal acting out of Revelation.

 

[Woberts]

Nothing really. In fact, things are generally getting better. At least, they are in my corner of the world.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

As opposed to all the times Christians thought in the past that the end was upon the world.

We even see from the New Testament seeming indication that the apostles thought the end was near coming. Perhaps even Jesus himself:

Matthew 10:23, Matthew 16:27-28, Luke 21:22
1 John 2:18, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

In addition, Christians have throughout history believed the end was near.

The present day idea that Jesus is coming soon seems to have been sparked by John Nelson Darby, the Millerites, and Ellen G. White: founder of Seventh Day Adventism.

White founded the SDA church on the coattails of the Great Disappointment: Great Disappointment - Wikipedia

John Miller had been wrong about the return of Christ, but White and her Adventist followers remained convinced the second coming was near.

After this 19th century wave of millenialism, Charles Taze Russel founded the Bible Students, which was reorganized into the Jehovah's Witnesses movement.

The Jehovah's Witnesses wrongly predicted the end of the world and events that were to herald the end a number of times before reworking their understanding into a gradual unfolding of Christ's coming.

In light of all this information- what is it about today's world and events that so strongly convinces apocalyptic-minded Christians the end is upon us?

Why do they think their understanding relating to the present time is correct, when others have been wrong?

Cult Mentality?
Escapism?

 

[Technologicalsociety]

What can people really know about the world? I try to concern myself less with what I might know and more with my faith in God's Word. As I try to turn to God's Word more in all matters I find the world's hold on my thoughts and actions slowly fading. For myself, this includes the very thought of time as our worldly consciousness would have us experience. I hope to cease living for the world and it's value systems and live for God alone. At which point the end of times would have truly arrived and being united in Eternity with God would have taken its rightful place over me. So the end is truly near for each person who has heard the Word. But who are the truly blessed who accept this invitation from God? Only you the individual and God know this.