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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Polymath257 said:
No, but if we can prevent the deaths, that would be a lot better, right?

Not to mention the other side effects of getting this virus, including organ failure.
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Yes, of course. That doesn't mean the healing from COVID should be disregarded.

That's why you have different health organizations talking about people who healed, testimonies, and giving people hope that it's not all about death. I'm sure the sick would be better mentally if they didn't see the people who died. Causes panic etc.

I wouldn't want a grim weeper in my room if I'm recovering from COVID.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
So,wait? You don't care about people who are healing from COVID just those dying?

I'm mean you have people on RF who recovered from COVID-they don't matter?

Please don't tell me you guys don't care about the healing??

(You guys opinions about me is irrelevant to the OP)
 
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Deeje

Deeje

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There seems to be three main categories of the Covid 19 patients.....

1) Those who get the virus but are A-symptomatic or have only a low viral load and virtually recover as if nothing much happened.

2) Those who get the virus and who are symptomatic and serious enough to need hospital treatment (but who may or may not not need a ventilator) and survive.....but are left with some devastating long term health problems which vary widely between patients. No one is sure if immunity from further infection is assured at this stage as the virus tends to mutate.

3) Those who get a large viral load and are so ill (normally because of other underlying health issues) and who receive all the treatments that are available, put into induced comas on a ventilator.....but who succumb and die.

Since none of us know which category we might end up in, isn't it better to take every precaution available instead of ignoring the warnings and gathering in large numbers as if you are somehow immune? The rallies I have seen on the nightly news, with no masks and a shared belief that they are not necessary, beggar belief......what is wrong with these people? It only takes a super-spreader to infect a whole bunch of people, who will in turn infect a bunch more.

We've got 1.54 million deaths to date and its far from over.....Its way past time to get real about this thing IMO.....o_O Why are so many people pretending that its not there....? :shrug:
 
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U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Deeje said:
There seems to be three main categories of the Covid 19 patients.....

1) Those who get the virus but are A-symptomatic or have only a low viral load and virtually recover as if nothing much happened.

2) Those who get the virus and who are symptomatic and serious enough to need hospital treatment (but who may or may not not need a ventilator) and survive.....butare left with some devastating long term health problems which vary widely between patients. No one is sure if immunity from further infection is assured at this stage as the virus tends to mutate.

3) Those who get a large viral load and are so ill (normally because of other underlying health issues) and who receive all the treatments that are available, put into induced comas on a ventilator.....but who succumb and die.

Since none of us know which category we might end up in, isn't it better to take every precaution available instead of ignoring the warnings and gathering in large numbers as if you are somehow immune? The rallies I have seen on the nightly news, with no masks and a shared belief that they are not necessary, beggar belief......what is wrong with these people? It only takes a super-spreader to infect a whole bunch of people, who will in turn infect a bunch more.

We've got 1.54 million deaths to date and its far from over.....Its way past time to get real about this thing IMO.....o_O Why are so many people pretending that its not there....? :shrug:
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I read. True. The OP was to put some emphasis on the healing from these stages rather than quote the ones who have died.

People here has had COVID but it threw me off guard that one wouldn't care noneless to second grade people because they are no longer deadly ill.

The video showed about different tips people who have covid light symptoms can do to help themselves. I have no issues with COVID personally, but I do think those who are political kinda miss the point.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Deeje said:
Why are so many people pretending that its not there....
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I think cause it's not in their immediate environment to put more energy in it than what's on tv. Denial could be one. But I think denial only takes place when one is face to face with the seriousness. Politics is,cough,messing everything up.

I don't know. I don't have a T.V. and I don't look up the news outside of class communication assignments (and I use good news for them), so the only connection I have is seeing people with masks.

People in my situation may look like we're in denial but it varies on the exposure not what's on t.v. Different perspectives.

I don't watch politics enough to build an hateful opinion about people....but the OP wasn't about me, just thought some attention on the recovering would help without every other thread talking about whose positive.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Deeje said:
That's the message we are are getting in Australia.....not wearing masks is more about making a political statement.....sad isn't it? Ignorant even......:( People are dying....saving even one life is surely worth your own discomfort? :shrug:
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If you want to see how scary it really can get, the cases in America have been skyrocketing the past couple months with
signs of getting much worse. We were still below 200,000 deaths by the election, now it's nearing 300,000. But ppeople still politicize it, they still gather, they still allow covid to do its worse.
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Unveiled Artist said:
So,wait? You don't care about people who are healing from COVID just those dying?

I'm mean you have people on RF who recovered from COVID-they don't matter?

Please don't tell me you guys don't care about the healing??

(You guys opinions about me is irrelevant to the OP)
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You would be right to raise the question about the long term effects of Covid 19, if that is what this thread is about. That subject will become more and more important as the vaccine gets rolled out and the new infections decline. The trouble is that we can only address that once we have enough experience, which means enough time has passed, and enough cases have been evaluated.

From what I read, there can be a huge range of after-effects, from lung scarring (we don't know yet if it is permanent or temporary), to organ damage (heart, certainly, and I think maybe kidneys), effects on vision, headaches, ME-like long term fatigue, plus long term anosmia (loss of taste and smell). All of these can seriously affect mental state, so depression etc. may be an issue.

I was lucky and only had anosmia: total for a fortnight and then gradual recovery over 6-8 weeks. But I can tell you that after 2 weeks of not being able to smell or taste anything, I was getting a bit frightened and depressed about maybe having to go through the rest of my life like that. Then one day someone had a bonfire and I realised I could faintly smell smoke. I was so happy. My nephew has recovered but now finds the taste of onions disgusting. There will be countless different experiences that doctors will become aware of as time goes by.

However right now we are in the midst of a crisis of infection, with a surge in hospitalisation that threatens to crash the health system. So it is not really surprising that is the main focus.
 
Polymath257

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Unveiled Artist said:
Yes, of course. That doesn't mean the healing from COVID should be disregarded.

That's why you have different health organizations talking about people who healed, testimonies, and giving people hope that it's not all about death. I'm sure the sick would be better mentally if they didn't see the people who died. Causes panic etc.

I wouldn't want a grim weeper in my room if I'm recovering from COVID.
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And yes, getting through the infection, and dealing with the potential aftermath is also very important.

Right now, though, our health system is being overwhelmed. We need to cut down the infection rate. We need to stop people from dying, and yes, get people healed.

But it is at the point that if someone is in a car accident, or has a heart attack, there simply are not open hospital beds to put them in. People are going to die from that.

So, we need, right now, to focus on stopping the spread of this virus.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Deeje said:
That's the message we are are getting in Australia.....not wearing masks is more about making a political statement.....sad isn't it? Ignorant even......:( People are dying....saving even one life is surely worth your own discomfort? :shrug:
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Yeah. I believe there is more to it than yelling at people without masks. It gets nasty. Thankfully I'm in an area where people are indifferent about it. We wear our masks but so far since some of us don't wear them 24/7 we get dirty looks. But outside of that, Im around a lot of older people with various conditions. So, though not enforced (I'm behind the desk and sometimes reminding them) everyone gets it.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
exchemist said:
However right now we are in the midst of a crisis of infection, with a surge in hospitalisation that threatens to crash the health system. So it is not really surprising that is the main focus.
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True. There are a lot of healing testimonial videos on youtube. The video in the OP would probably help with some self recovery tips. Hopefully most people who have it get better and take care of themselves. I know it's important to see thousands of death counts but it does make me wonder on RF partially if that should be the focus.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Polymath257 said:
And yes, getting through the infection, and dealing with the potential aftermath is also very important.

Right now, though, our health system is being overwhelmed. We need to cut down the infection rate. We need to stop people from dying, and yes, get people healed.

But it is at the point that if someone is in a car accident, or has a heart attack, there simply are not open hospital beds to put them in. People are going to die from that.

So, we need, right now, to focus on stopping the spread of this virus.
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Yes. I kinda wish there's a disable comments for OP. It was meant for looking at positives. We know what's wrong but why aren't we talking about bringing the numbers down than yelling at why nbers go up.
 
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