What am I?

[savethedreams]

okay let me start off with a quick life story, I grew up in a Christian home, very VERY religious, then at 16 years old, someone from my congregation told me, 'when you read the bible imagine yourself there. RIGHT THERE, talking to moses, paul and jesus' so I did, me knowing about history I began to question things in the bible, this is where it 'secretly' started. I graduated High School 2005, went to college, and read almost EVERY borders BOOK on religion, everything on religion and philosophy. Now 2010, if/when someone ask me, what religious faith do I have? I can't answer, I don't believe in many of them, so my question is what is my religion, based off my ground determined beliefs. Due to my experiences and research over the last 7 years, what would u conclude, my foundation beliefs are:

1. The bible is not inspired of god, just great words of wisdom, mixed in with fantasy stories, with metaphorically life lessons.

2. There is no such things as sin,

3. I believe in karma/reap what u sow/golden rule. Everything you do to others, will come back on you now or in the afterlife.

4. I don't believe in death, life always has been and always will continue. There is an afterlife, we just haven't scientifically discovered it yet. Death is a part of life, it is NOT bad. and I believe every dead person I will see again in the afterlife. There is life after death, and scientifically it can be proven, seen with our own eyes, I have faith we will discover it.

5. Its not logically to reincarnate into a snake.

6. There are demons, spirits, ghost and goblins. It is possible to 'talk' to them but not necessary.

7. sin and suffering begin with desire, stop desire and just BE like a lotus, just BE and do good love to all. I try to only 'desire' less then 10 things in life ONLY.

8. Everybody is one: my personal philosophy there is no difference between a snake or a human, same place, same direction, same life, same organism (evolution), same god (theist), same blood (biology), headed to the same place. Animals ARE NOT meant to serve us. We as humans are NOT more intelligent them animals. we are all , everything living one.

9. Everything is an individual: The truth is relative, we are all one, but all individuals. not two squirrels are alike, they are individuals as us humans.

10. Everything is Everything: ...'what is meant to be will be' whatever happens happens in the universe, so be it, as long as you put good energy.

11. Evolution can be true, but haven't found any STRONG evidence, its whatever to me.

12. I take an agnostic approach to there being a 'god' supreme being, but on the other hand, god i can see be (kama) god is everywhere, he is everything, he is us. I do believe sense I'm part of god, I am god, as well as everything else. God is more of a force , God is 'mother nature'.

13. I skeptical on magic, mysticism, yes myrrh, franksencie can help you in 'those' ways, but that not 'magic' just laws on the universe, like peppermint is for bad breath.

14. Most religions I see is focus on, 'ganging' something from someone for good deeds. I don't agree with 'obey gods rules' and you'll get 'heaven' not 'hell'. There is no hell. People 'pray' to get something the screwed up on. I personally have high glucose level, if I keep eating bad, and get diabetes like my family, its my fault (karma), can't pray god to take away what you caused.

So what religion/ philosophy would my experiences fall up under. I just lived life, and was enlighten by those concepts. I know few of my experiences and idea are found in some religions, but not fully. So what am I?

 

[Engyo]

Belief-O-Matic- Beliefnet.com

This can be surprisingly insightful, even though it is intended for entertainment purposes.

 

[savethedreams]

Belief-O-Matic- Beliefnet.com

This can be surprisingly insightful, even though it is intended for entertainment purposes.

yeah i tried that before , just want to be given a view from the public not an online generator

 

[Twig pentagram]

You sound pantheistic.

 

[LuisDantas]

I see elements of Taoism and Hinduism in your beliefs, but it seems to me that you don't neatly fit in either. I guess you are technically pantheist, but your beliefs involve so many supernatural concepts that I would rather suggest that you consider some sort of pagan faith instead.

 

[Revoltingest]

I figured it out.
You're a "savedthedreamist".
You likely haven't run across another, since it's not an organized religion with TV shows, big churches, or congressional lobbyists.
(Revoltifarians have that problem too.)

 

[savethedreams]

I see elements of Taoism and Hinduism in your beliefs, but it seems to me that you don't neatly fit in either. I guess you are technically pantheist, but your beliefs involve so many supernatural concepts that I would rather suggest that you consider some sort of pagan faith instead.

see I see the EXACT same thing HOWEver!, I don't believe someone can be 'enlighten' by the vedas, and the whole concept of a vedas. I don't believe in books, and i DON'T BELIEVE i can come back to earth as a cat, no reincarnation. Although I like Hinduism and wish it replaced all the christian churches on earth.

pagan faith such as what? and I think i would be a pantheist sounds cool.

I never gotten into Taoism to deeply, i know its 'the way of life' but i just don't understand it.

 

[.lava]

i hope i would not be rude if i say number 1 and 7 are a bit contradicting

.

 

[savethedreams]

i hope i would not be rude if i say number 1 and 7 are a bit contradicting

.

I would truly be offended if you kept something that can help me 'open my eyes more'. Please if you feel something say it, especially towards me. Thanks. BE rude as much as possible, i'll accept nothing less.

Now 1. I was saying I don't necessary 'believe' in the bible, in 7. I was speaking of suffering is caused by desire. 'sin' in terms of 'bad' <<, however you perceive 'bad.' Don't get how they contradict.

 

[ChristineES]

savethedreams, you sound like you are mixed religions and philosophies. I think you fit under "seeker". Which isn't bad, when, after all, we are seekers to a certain extent.

 

[.lava]

I would truly be offended if you kept something that can help me 'open my eyes more'. Please if you feel something say it, especially towards me. Thanks. BE rude as much as possible, i'll accept nothing less.

Now 1. I was saying I don't necessary 'believe' in the bible, in 7. I was speaking of suffering is caused by desire. 'sin' in terms of 'bad' <<, however you perceive 'bad.' Don't get how they contradict.

sorry, i was trying to say number 2 and 7

.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

okay let me start off with a quick life story, I grew up in a Christian home, very VERY religious, then at 16 years old, someone from my congregation told me, 'when you read the bible imagine yourself there. RIGHT THERE, talking to moses, paul and jesus' so I did, me knowing about history I began to question things in the bible, this is where it 'secretly' started. I graduated High School 2005, went to college, and read almost EVERY borders BOOK on religion, everything on religion and philosophy. Now 2010, if/when someone ask me, what religious faith do I have? I can't answer, I don't believe in many of them, so my question is what is my religion, based off my ground determined beliefs. Due to my experiences and research over the last 7 years, what would u conclude, my foundation beliefs are:

1. The bible is not inspired of god, just great words of wisdom, mixed in with fantasy stories, with metaphorically life lessons.

2. There is no such things as sin,

3. I believe in karma/reap what u sow/golden rule. Everything you do to others, will come back on you now or in the afterlife.

4. I don't believe in death, life always has been and always will continue. There is an afterlife, we just haven't scientifically discovered it yet. Death is a part of life, it is NOT bad. and I believe every dead person I will see again in the afterlife. There is life after death, and scientifically it can be proven, seen with our own eyes, I have faith we will discover it.

5. Its not logically to reincarnate into a snake.

6. There are demons, spirits, ghost and goblins. It is possible to 'talk' to them but not necessary.

7. sin and suffering begin with desire, stop desire and just BE like a lotus, just BE and do good love to all. I try to only 'desire' less then 10 things in life ONLY.

8. Everybody is one: my personal philosophy there is no difference between a snake or a human, same place, same direction, same life, same organism (evolution), same god (theist), same blood (biology), headed to the same place. Animals ARE NOT meant to serve us. We as humans are NOT more intelligent them animals. we are all , everything living one.

9. Everything is an individual: The truth is relative, we are all one, but all individuals. not two squirrels are alike, they are individuals as us humans.

10. Everything is Everything: ...'what is meant to be will be' whatever happens happens in the universe, so be it, as long as you put good energy.

11. Evolution can be true, but haven't found any STRONG evidence, its whatever to me.

You need to look harder (also, this is irrelevant).

12. I take an agnostic approach to there being a 'god' supreme being, but on the other hand, god i can see be (kama) god is everywhere, he is everything, he is us. I do believe sense I'm part of god, I am god, as well as everything else. God is more of a force , God is 'mother nature'.

13. I skeptical on magic, mysticism, yes myrrh, franksencie can help you in 'those' ways, but that not 'magic' just laws on the universe, like peppermint is for bad breath.

14. Most religions I see is focus on, 'ganging' something from someone for good deeds. I don't agree with 'obey gods rules' and you'll get 'heaven' not 'hell'. There is no hell. People 'pray' to get something the screwed up on. I personally have high glucose level, if I keep eating bad, and get diabetes like my family, its my fault (karma), can't pray god to take away what you caused.

So what religion/ philosophy would my experiences fall up under. I just lived life, and was enlighten by those concepts. I know few of my experiences and idea are found in some religions, but not fully. So what am I?

Well, if you're skeptical on magic but believe in spirits, ghosts, goblins and reincarnation I'd say you're "confused".

Otherwise, I would describe you as an agnostic pantheist (and possible atheist pending more questions about how you define God).

 

[goodegg007]

In my 77 years I've learned that what Jesus tried to teach us has been grossly misconstrued by many... His 'religion' was really quite simple: 1) His definition of God is A LOVING FATHER; 2) He believed God's #1 Commandment for all mankind was for us to love God and ALL of our neighbors with all our hearts, souls and minds - especially those whom we love to hate - AS MUCH AS WE LOVE OURSELVES! The Israelites HATED the Samaritans in His time); and 3) To seek the truth - which will free us from the need to rely on ancient lore for our religious tenets.
The Hebrews didn't have a written language until about 1200 BC, and 2/3rd's or more of the Bible's stories, including those about Moses (1400 BC) were simply hand me down stories that had been passed down by highly uneducated 'self-appointed' ancient political/religious leaders.
In my studies I've learned how religions evolved as forms of government - to control tribal behavior. Two huge emotions were appealed to by their leaders: the emotion of greed - promising the people that with the help of God they would lead them to the 'Promised Land' (which later became Heaven); and the emotion of fear - promising them if they DIDN'T follow their commands, they'd suffer from famine, floods, all kinds of natural disasters (which at that time were interpreted as 'Acts of an Angry God') - which later was expanded to spending eternity in Hell.
Of course earth science was unheard of. The earth was flat. Hell was down - where the molten lava spewed from; and Heaven was up - where God's eyes looked down upon them.
Ask yourself: What behavior, if ALL of mankind engaged in it, would make this world a better place for everyone? The only answer I can come up with is - learn to love everyone. Can you imagine what this world would be like if every parent taught every child - by word and by example - to love everyone?
I have no idea if there is 'eternal life' out there somewhere. But to me, the most important thing we can do is live THIS life to the fullest, helping one another to enjoy the promise that living THIS life to the fullest can bring. Then, if at death there is no eternity, at least we will have this life to the fullest. And if there IS an eternity, then you can bet your life that a loving Father/God would prefer to share His Mansion with those who had learned how to be loving and kind on this earth.
"As a man thinks in his heart, so is he." We ACT on our true beliefs - which isn't necessarily what we SAY we believe, nor how many times we say it. How we treat others all day, every day, tells the world what we truly believe.

 

[LuisDantas]

see I see the EXACT same thing HOWEver!, I don't believe someone can be 'enlighten' by the vedas, and the whole concept of a vedas. I don't believe in books,

If you mean that you don't value scripture over self-realization, well, welcome to the club then. I'm not sure that this excludes any specific faith, however. Well, probably the Urantia Book is not for you...

and i DON'T BELIEVE i can come back to earth as a cat, no reincarnation.

But you do believe (or maybe even demand) some sort of reincarnation, don't you?

Although I like Hinduism and wish it replaced all the christian churches on earth.

pagan faith such as what? and I think i would be a pantheist sounds cool.

Asatru, Druidism, Wicca, those are the ones that spring to mind.

I never gotten into Taoism to deeply, i know its 'the way of life' but i just don't understand it.

Have you read the Tao Te Ching?

 

[savethedreams]

savethedreams, you sound like you are mixed religions and philosophies. I think you fit under "seeker". Which isn't bad, when, after all, we are seekers to a certain extent.

even if i was under any other religious- philosophy I still would be a seeker. Totally agree.

 

[savethedreams]

You need to look harder (also, this is irrelevant).

Look harder, harder into what? I have read much, discovered and did much.

Well, if you're skeptical on magic but believe in spirits, ghosts, goblins and reincarnation I'd say you're "confused".

I never said I believe in reincarnation, I do not. Yes I skeptical on magic. and Yes I have came across spirits not goblins. Its seems like your trying to define me to something in your area which is what I didn't ask. My EXPERIENCES doesn't fit into one religious category which is why i asked. I have experiences many religious almost everything under google and not satisfied with none of them honestly.

Otherwise, I would describe you as an agnostic pantheist (and possible atheist pending more questions about how you define God).

I can't be athesit, sense I believe that there is a god, i will never say there is no god. 2.) i AM Agnostic about 'how god is' , but he is.

 

[savethedreams]

If you mean that you don't value scripture over self-realization, well, welcome to the club then. I'm not sure that this excludes any specific faith, however. Well, probably the Urantia Book is not for you...

You are so helpful this is why I came here for to interact and seek and discover, I take my spirituality very very serious. I will read many books, but I don't understand or agree wholeheartedly with the concept of a book being inspired of god, but a book written down based on the person perception I can agree on. In other words, I don't agree with Koran, bible or vedas. I will and do read anything, any religious book.

But you do believe (or maybe even demand) some sort of reincarnation, don't you?

Well Christians believe that you will die and be 'reincarnated' to going to heaven to a certain extent. See this i'm so-so confused on. Rebirth NO, reincarnation yes to a certain extent. This is still something I'm trying to discover.

Asatru, Druidism, Wicca, those are the ones that spring to mind.



Have you read the Tao Te Ching?

I have tried Wicca, but not as deep it very interesting. The others I have read but not dig deep into. Yes I have read some of the Tao Te Ching. I will read all of it.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Look harder, harder into what? I have read much, discovered and did much.

Look harder at the evidence for evolution. Evolution is a fact - better established than gravity.

I never said I believe in reincarnation, I do not.

Apologies, I meant "life after death" generally, since you hold the position that death does not truly exist.

Yes I skeptical on magic. and Yes I have came across spirits not goblins. Its seems like your trying to define me to something in your area which is what I didn't ask. My EXPERIENCES doesn't fit into one religious category which is why i asked. I have experiences many religious almost everything under google and not satisfied with none of them honestly.

And yet you claim to be "skeptical" about magic. Since magic is predominant in practically all world faiths, this renders your position logically impossible.

I can't be athesit, sense I believe that there is a god, i will never say there is no god. 2.) i AM Agnostic about 'how god is' , but he is.

An atheist is someone who does not believe in the existence of an intelligent agency responsible for creating the Universe - it's a position which deals with a specific definition of God.

So, do you believe your God is a) an intelligent supernatural agency and/or b) responsible for the creation or maintaining of the universe? If you answer yes to both, you're a theist, if you answer no to either of them, I would define you as an atheist.

 

[strikeviperMKII]

You are you. Why must you be something different?

 

[goodegg007]

Immortal Flame... we are a composite of our experiences. And because each of us experiences life differently, we will see the world differently. That's OK! And it should answer your (hidden) questions about whether we should arrive at the same or similar conclusions about our beliefs? Just ask yourself... What can I do to make this world a better place... for those I come into contact on a daily basis. If it is no more than making them smile, you're living a life of loving kindness. Any 2-year old can get angry, upset, mad, wanting to fight... It takes a kind, loving, mature person to love others - especially those who are different? But loving and being kind to others is life's most rewarding challenge!