Ceridwen018
Well-Known Member
destinata7,
I agree. Mickey Mouse, animation, Santa Clause, The Loch Ness Monster, leprecauns, etc., all have a type of existence in that they affect humans. However, I would argue that this type of existence should be kept very separate from full existence, which I would define as something which is physical, which can be measured and documented, and which can function and thrive outside of someone's imagination.
I will even concede that god exists in this same format...not only does the concept of god affect the lives of humans, but to dig further--thoughts are physical reactions inside people's brains, and so when people think about god, it becomes physical in that person's thought. However, we must realize that thoughts cannot exist outside of a person's imagination, and so mere physicality doesn't warrant full existence.
Do you have those verses on you by chance?
I agree that the 'possibility' for unicorns is there (there are negative numbers, after all...j/k!). Just because we haven't found unicorn fossils doesn't mean we won't, but that's where logic comes in. Because we haven't found unicorn fossils, or any other supporting evidence, we must conclude that they do not and have never existed. Of course, reaching said conclusion absolutely does not rule out possibility, but we have to be reasonable. It seems silly to me to put stock in something without a foundation. I mean, really, as long as 'belief in unicorns' doesn't interrupt your otherwise rational thought, I don't care...but it seems to me that a lot of people are sacrificing logic for their belief in god, and that bugs me.
Aw, where's the fun in that? :lol:
The Voice of Reason,
I'm in Dayton. Have you ever heard of a farm called 'Flying Cross'? It's down around Louisville--I ride horses and have competed there a couple of times.
What is it with women and their precious unicorns? Look, Ceridwen. Does animation exist? Yes it does. Some people would argue that Mickey Mouse doesn't exist.....and others would disagree. It appears that this "non-existent" mouse has garnished a certain un-named company billions of dollars in revenue! And in the process had a direct effect on millions of children worldwide. Non-existent you say.
If something is pulled from the imagination and then brought into the physical world and "life" ,if you will, is breathed into it.....it has a type of existence. Especially when this "life" has a tangible effect on those who come into contact with it.
I agree. Mickey Mouse, animation, Santa Clause, The Loch Ness Monster, leprecauns, etc., all have a type of existence in that they affect humans. However, I would argue that this type of existence should be kept very separate from full existence, which I would define as something which is physical, which can be measured and documented, and which can function and thrive outside of someone's imagination.
I will even concede that god exists in this same format...not only does the concept of god affect the lives of humans, but to dig further--thoughts are physical reactions inside people's brains, and so when people think about god, it becomes physical in that person's thought. However, we must realize that thoughts cannot exist outside of a person's imagination, and so mere physicality doesn't warrant full existence.
The Bible mentions the unicorn in no less than nine places. This "unicorn" idea came from somewhere! Whether the unicorn physically existed on this planet and whether it looked just like the modern day picture of a unicorn can be argued as anything without physical proof. However, I contend that the unicorn does exist.....at least as an image, and continues to live on and affect even our conversations on this forum.
Do you have those verses on you by chance?
Put it this way: If unicorns do not physically exist on the earth at the present time and have never physicaly existed on the earth at any time, then they either will, do or have physically existed somewhere in this universe.......because the potential of the image exists. And yes, it still counts if some genetic engineer decides to help out nature and creates one in the future. Without the idea or image potential....this would not be possible!
I agree that the 'possibility' for unicorns is there (there are negative numbers, after all...j/k!). Just because we haven't found unicorn fossils doesn't mean we won't, but that's where logic comes in. Because we haven't found unicorn fossils, or any other supporting evidence, we must conclude that they do not and have never existed. Of course, reaching said conclusion absolutely does not rule out possibility, but we have to be reasonable. It seems silly to me to put stock in something without a foundation. I mean, really, as long as 'belief in unicorns' doesn't interrupt your otherwise rational thought, I don't care...but it seems to me that a lot of people are sacrificing logic for their belief in god, and that bugs me.
Ceridwen, I know your mind is already working trying to tear my reasoning apart. Why don't you try something different this time and support my proposal with further wonderful examples!!!
Aw, where's the fun in that? :lol:
The Voice of Reason,
I'm in Dayton. Have you ever heard of a farm called 'Flying Cross'? It's down around Louisville--I ride horses and have competed there a couple of times.