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What are the FACTS that support your religion?
- Thread starter CincyJim
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Nick Soapdish
Secret Agent
You are right--I misunderstood your argument. I now believe P3 is also not evident.
Something that can't be measured or quantified; something that is omnipotent and omniscient; something that is beyond absolute comprehension.
Here are some "facts" of my faith. I love God. I love Yeshua and try to follow all His commands. I feel God,I see God everywhere I look. God makes me feel whole.
I try to be kind to people and I try to follow the Golden Rule. I used to feel as though I had no purpose in life, but now I feel as though I do have a purpose. These things help make me who I am. Now that I have God, I am not going to give Him up.
These and other things are facts to me. They may be facts to other Christians. Other religions may have other facts about God.
These things would not be considered facts in the scientific world. In the scientific world, you need physical evidence. I love science, I love studying it. So I do know that any theory or natural law has to go through a lot of rigorous testing to be even accepted. You can't do physical testing with God.
I try to be kind to people and I try to follow the Golden Rule. I used to feel as though I had no purpose in life, but now I feel as though I do have a purpose. These things help make me who I am. Now that I have God, I am not going to give Him up.
These and other things are facts to me. They may be facts to other Christians. Other religions may have other facts about God.
These things would not be considered facts in the scientific world. In the scientific world, you need physical evidence. I love science, I love studying it. So I do know that any theory or natural law has to go through a lot of rigorous testing to be even accepted. You can't do physical testing with God.
That seems like a very strange definition for "infinite".
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
If empirical data counts as verifiable fact, then post #2 would be my response.
If "Cogito Ergo Sum" is considered unverifiable, then there goes all the empirical data I could list.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Problem here is that by this definition EVERYTHING is infinite.
The fact remains that some people don't believe in something unless they can feel it (that is physical feeling), hear it, smell it, taste it, or see it.
About Cogito Ergo Sum- I know I exist, but I can't prove to anyone here or anyone else. The only person I could prove that to is myself. Even Descartes, when he came up with it, didn't deny that. I have seen people walking around talking to invisible companions-- it has occurred to me that maybe they can see someone that the rest of us cannot see. You never know, maybe schizophrenics can see them because they believe in them. (I know that sounds insane, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt)
About Cogito Ergo Sum- I know I exist, but I can't prove to anyone here or anyone else. The only person I could prove that to is myself. Even Descartes, when he came up with it, didn't deny that. I have seen people walking around talking to invisible companions-- it has occurred to me that maybe they can see someone that the rest of us cannot see. You never know, maybe schizophrenics can see them because they believe in them. (I know that sounds insane, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt)
Mike182
Flaming Queer
i thought Karma was tied in with reincarnation, your collective Karma dictates your next incarnation. since you can't objectively prove any form of afterlife, be it heaven or reincarnation, your law of Karma is very much open to question.
An admirable sentiment, comrade, but completely without empirical evidence.
Don't feel so alone, though -- I've got your back....
Pariah
Let go
Here's a FACT about my faith. You can't prove I'm wrong.
Well said.
Nanda
Polyanna
Here's a FACT about my faith. You can't prove I'm wrong.
True. But since you can't prove that you're right, either, it doesn't mean very much to us skeptics.
True. But since you can't prove that you're right, either, it doesn't mean very much to us skeptics.
Depends on what one considers to be proof or evidence of proof and who your trying to prove it to. I've certainly been able to "prove it" to myself. And it also helps that I don't care about proving it to others. but in general your right it doesn't mean much. However the thread only asked for FACTS and what I gave is a fact.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Saddam Hussein? Nazis?. Also i have no clue what empirical means.
Nanda
Polyanna
Depends on what one considers to be proof or evidence of proof and who your trying to prove it to. I've certainly been able to "prove it" to myself. And it also helps that I don't care about proving it to others. but in general your right it doesn't mean much. However the thread only asked for FACTS and what I gave is a fact.
Yes, but I'm arguing that it's a pretty useless fact.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Yeah, i noticed that. People provide facts that are jut downright stupid, not sayiing that yours Is MoonWater, haven't read yours.
I actually agree, but then the OP didn't say that the facts had to be useFUL now did it?
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
But, there is no water on the moon!
Are you refrencing my name and sking for an explanation or is this just a random comment?