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What are your thoughts on Chruch's refusing to wed gays?

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
Please don't patronize me, your all the same, thinking you know it all, when in fact you know nothing.
You say I know it all yet you are the one who seems to assume things about me that I never even said. You judge me like any other Christian you have met. Let me ask you what makes you any different from us then? Why is OK for you to do the same thing you assume I am doing?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
You say I know it all yet you are the one who seems to assume things about me that I never even said. You judge me like any other Christian you have met. Let me ask you what makes you any different from us then? Why is OK for you to do the same thing you assume I am doing?
Well I was a Christian for many years, and I left because I was never left to think for myself. When I did think for myself, I then realized that religion only kept me in ignorance, I just hate how religion takes away our mind, and makes us believe that we need the church, when we don't.
 

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
Well I was a Christian for many years, and I left because I was never left to think for myself. When I did think for myself, I then realized that religion only kept me in ignorance, I just hate how religion takes away our mind, and makes us believe that we need the church, when we don't.
There is a difference between needing the church and needing God. Sure it is good to have fellowship with other believers but at the end of the day we need Christ. Each of us do even if we think we don't. There will always be some kind of brokenness in us that can only be fulfilled by Christ
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
There is a difference between needing the church and needing God. Sure it is good to have fellowship with other believers but at the end of the day we need Christ. Each of us do even if we think we don't. There will always be some kind of brokenness in us that can only be fulfilled by Christ
Yes I have known the Christ in my own life, the Christ to me is our own inner Being, that which is one in God, or what I like to call it, the Source. So many have mistaken the Christ to mean Jesus, and only Jesus, this is wrong, the man Jesus was a Enlightened being that realized his divinity, and that is what we all must do, realize our own Divinity, the Christ.
You may think that this is wrong, but I also believe that you are wrong, and I hope one day you will find your own inner being the Christ.
 

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
Yes I have known the Christ in my own life, the Christ to me is our own inner Being, that which is one in God, or what I like to call it, the Source. So many have mistaken the Christ to mean Jesus, and only Jesus, this is wrong, the man Jesus was a Enlightened being that realized his divinity, and that is what we all must do, realize our own Divinity, the Christ.
You may think that this is wrong, but I also believe that you are wrong, and I hope one day you will find your own inner being the Christ.
I have. I found that having my identy with Christ is the real me. I was made to be a child of the living God. To bring glory to his name and to shine the light of Christ in a darken world. Being a born again made me be not only a better human being but a better son and husband. I found my purpose.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I have. I found that having my identy with Christ is the real me. I was made to be a child of the living God. To bring glory to his name and to shine the light of Christ in a darken world. Being a born again made me be not only a better human being but a better son and husband. I found my purpose.
Ok, I can appreciate that, but can you appreciate how I feel, now be honest.
 

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
Ok, I can appreciate that, but can you appreciate how I feel, now be honest.
I have no problem respecting people views. I am not on here to fight with people. In fact when that happens I often leave for a few days. I might not agree with views just like you !might not agree with mine that does not mean we can't respect each other. Hope that is a good enough answer cause that is the best I can give you
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I have no problem respecting people views. I am not on here to fight with people. In fact when that happens I often leave for a few days. I might not agree with views just like you !might not agree with mine that does not mean we can't respect each other. Hope that is a good enough answer cause that is the best I can give you
So can I say, is there another way than your way to God ?.
 

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
So can I say, is there another way than your way to God ?.
As a Christian no I don't believe that. But as a human I can however respect that others might not agree as I do. My job is to be Christ to a fallen world. To be the light like all other Christians. As a born again I will admit we often screw that up though. I will be the first to admit I have many times
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
As a Christian no I don't believe that. But as a human I can however respect that others might not agree as I do. My job is to be Christ to a fallen world. To be the light like all other Christians. As a born again I will admit we often screw that up though. I will be the first to admit I have many times
So in other words, your saying that your way to god is the only way, isn't that being a fundamentalist ??>
 

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
So in other words, your saying that your way to god is the only way, isn't that being a fundamentalist ??>
No being a fundie is force my Faith down people throats. Just cause I agree that Christ is the way does not make me a fundie. It makes me a born again that loves God and people
 

ether-ore

Active Member
I have a hard time understanding why any homosexual would want to go to a church where they know that their lifestyle is considered a sin and attempt to force the minister to perform a marriage ceremony for them. The homosexual would have to think that that minister or his church are not a true church and therefore not a valid representative of God on the grounds that that church is not accepting of them. I mean, if homosexuals believe that God accepts them, why would they go where others have a contrary belief? The only reason I can think of is for spite and to cause trouble. Perhaps homosexuals think that if they can force some minister to perform a marriage ceremony for them, then that means for them that God accepts them. Is validation and acceptance by force, genuine validation and acceptance? Or is the purpose really about confrontation and contempt for the rights of others?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Why I'm I impossible? I have a feeling you want to fight instead of a friendly debate.
Its not wanting to fight, but people like you just cannot see what is right in front of your eye's, of course there is no god,. there has never been any proof, and I am sure you have no proof. Your god that you love so much is just a projection of your own inner selfishness, as long as you feel good with this belief, is all that matters.
 

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
I have a hard time understanding why any homosexual would want to go to a church where they know that their lifestyle is considered a sin and attempt to force the minister to perform a marriage ceremony for them. The homosexual would have to think that that minister or his church are not a true church and therefore not a valid representative of God on the grounds that that church is not accepting of them. I mean, if homosexuals believe that God accepts them, why would they go where others have a contrary belief? The only reason I can think of is for spite and to cause trouble. Perhaps homosexuals think that if they can force some minister to perform a marriage ceremony for them, then that means for them that God accepts them. Is validation and acceptance by force, genuine validation and acceptance? Or is the purpose really about confrontation and contempt for the rights of others?
I believe even gay Christians hunger for God. No matter what sin we do our spirits still hunger for something more
 

BenTheBeliever

Active Member
Its not wanting to fight, but people like you just cannot see what is right in front of your eye's, of course there is no god,. there has never been any proof, and I am sure you have no proof. Your god that you love so much is just a projection of your own inner selfishness, as long as you feel good with this belief, is all that matters.
You keeps talking about you hope I don't push my ideas down others but you seem to be doing the same thing you are hoping I am not doing. Just cause I believe Christmas the only way does not make me a fundie and it does not mean I am forcing my ideas down anyone throat. In fact I think I have been very respectful and nice to you during this whole talk even though you attack my walk with Christ by assuming I believe cause I have had a hard life. Maybe before you point your fingers anymore at me you need to look at your own self in the mirror right now and see you are doing the same thing to me that you seem to think I could be doing.
 
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