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What binds these Christian beliefs together

firedragon

Veteran Member
I have answered it as directly as I know how to maintain the integrity of this thread as I stated in the OP -- to keep in mind the belief of others and to PLAY NICE.

I believe it is this kind of harping and attempted baiting that has kept those who believe in the points of the OP from coming to this thread and opening up, as asked, and talking of their beliefs to help my understanding.

So back to the OP:
Do YOU believe every word of the Bible is inspired by God?
If your answer is no -- you're done here.
If yes, please explain what you were taught to substantiate that belief.
Okay. So you avoided answering the question directly. Let me go to another book that was in the canonized Bible but later removed. Again, this is not the book of Thomas, Phillip, or any other book that was later found. I am talking about the Bible canon in the early Bible manuscripts. Do you understand the difference?

The Shepard of Hermas. Was that God's word or God inspired?
 

Spice

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Okay. So you avoided answering the question directly. Let me go to another book that was in the canonized Bible but later removed. Again, this is not the book of Thomas, Phillip, or any other book that was later found. I am talking about the Bible canon in the early Bible manuscripts. Do you understand the difference?

The Shepard of Hermas. Was that God's word or God inspired?
Open new thread and you've got me.

NO NEVER MIND - this has ruined all chance of me getting someone to talk to me about my interest, so here it goes:

Whether canonized or not, whether currently a part of the Catholic canon, or the Protestant canon, or has been but not any longer, or if only a slip of paper hiding under Franklin Graham's recliner -- I don't know if it was inspired by God. I have plenty on my plate trying to follow what I feel He is leading me to do. I'm not going to make a judgment call on another's faith journey as long as they are not actively engaging in the harm of others.

And please don't talk down to me. I have been as accommodating as I know how. I only hope you are not one of the participants here that get a kick out twisting others up fir your own entertainment.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Open new thread and you've got me.

NO NEVER MIND - this has ruined all chance of me getting someone to talk to me about my interest, so here it goes:

Whether canonized or not, whether currently a part of the Catholic canon, or the Protestant canon, or has been but not any longer, or if only a slip of paper hiding under Franklin Graham's recliner -- I don't know if it was inspired by God. I have plenty on my plate trying to follow what I feel He is leading me to do. I'm not going to make a judgment call on another's faith journey as long as they are not actively engaging in the harm of others.

And please don't talk down to me. I have been as accommodating as I know how. I only hope you are not one of the participants here that get a kick out twisting others up fir your own entertainment.
Okay. Cheers.
 
I want to reiterate that this is on a Discussion Board, so please be mindful of people's individual beliefs and play nice. I'm not asking for a "got'cha" moment, but for sincere guidance as to what is taught to those who believe the following:

Statements oft made:
●Every word of the Bible is God inspired.
●God does not change.
●There is no inconsistencies in the Bible outside of non-essential details.
●The Bible holds all the answers if you know where to look.

So if these statements are accurate, what holds them together under examination? What passages confirm the above statements? What were you taught, or shown in scriptures, to solidify these beliefs as truth?

Regarding these statements

The Bible itself does not claim that every single word of it is inspired.

God does not change, but his actions are different, his revelation evolves, his creation evolves. Since God acts on a contingent world where things are subject to the flow of time, his relationship with contingent creatures changes because we change.

I believe there are no major inconsistencies that would drive our life and actions in opposite directions.

The Bible does not claim to hold all the answers. Now, the Word of God claims to be a reliable guidance. But "Word of God" should not be confused with "Bible". Bible is a collection of specific books. It has a beginning and an end. It was written in certain languages, for people of identifiable times and cultures. The Word of God is eternal, is not restricted by language or culture, or the pages of a given Book.
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
●Every word of the Bible is God inspired.

"All Scripture is inspired by God..." (2 Timothy 3:16)

●God does not change.

"... Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow." (James 1:17)

●There is no inconsistencies in the Bible outside of non-essential details.

There is for example notable difference in conception of God between OT and NT Bible. It was explained that it's the same God but human understanding had been changing, evolving... Inspired word doesn't mean dictated. It was transmitted through human lens.

God's revelation accordingly is also gradual, culminating in Jesus.

●The Bible holds all the answers if you know where to look.

Not all the answers but those that are important for salvation.

"From childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus." (2 Timothy 3:15)

P. S.: I just shared what I was taught when I used to believe these things.
 
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RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Okay. So you avoided answering the question directly. Let me go to another book that was in the canonized Bible but later removed. Again, this is not the book of Thomas, Phillip, or any other book that was later found. I am talking about the Bible canon in the early Bible manuscripts. Do you understand the difference?

The Shepard of Hermas. Was that God's word or God inspired?


Sounds like you’re looking for a fight. It’s quite clear you’re in the wrong thread for that.
 
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