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What Causes the Collapse of Nations?

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
Different standards of living that are easily distinguishable based on class, race, religion, or geography - with no reform.

The Roman Empire was only successful when all people viewed themselves as Romans, even if 200 years ago tribes A and B were considered something else entirely.

Or, more recently, think of the Russian Revolution, which was primarily a class distinction.
 

Kemble

Active Member
I've been reading Jared Diamond's Collapse. I haven't finished the book, but I'm wondering what people think are the most important causes of the collapse of nations and societies?

Well if you really want a precise answer and have plenty of time on your hands you could grab a hold of Arnold Toynbee's 12 volume A Study of History.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Well if you really want a precise answer and have plenty of time on your hands you could grab a hold of Arnold Toynbee's 12 volume A Study of History.

I read an abridged version in high school. That's so long ago, I can no longer recall the details, beyond being somewhat unhappy both Toynbee's explanation for the rise of nations, and his explanation for their fall. But for the life of me, I can't recall much else.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Sadly the attempt to cure inequity by the Soviet Union was one of its greatest downfalls.
Actually I would say that rampant corruption that ruined any attempts at reducing inequity, coupled with a series of protracted military encounters and grotesque military spending did them in.

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