What constitutes Cosmic Space?

[Ben Dhyan]

What constitutes Cosmic Space?

Isn't it all above the Earth, please?
Right?

Regards

No, cosmic space is omnipresent, it is between atoms, within atoms, there is nowhere where it is not.

 

[paarsurrey]

No, cosmic space is omnipresent, it is between atoms, within atoms, there is nowhere where it is not.

Thanks for the information. God/Allah/YHVH is great having created it!
Right?
Regards

 

[osgart]

What was the prior condition of existence before the expansion of space?

Space to me is essential to physical existence. I like to think of a deeper, underlying reality. There must be a foundational eternal state of existence that is unconditioned for its existence.

So they say space and time are not fundamental. Then what is? Is there some prior arena where events unfold?

How can space expand into nothing or some kind of prior arena?

Shouldn't cosmology make sense observationally? It sounds like they have serious conundrums, and paradoxes on their hands.

How does one justify saying that the universe is all there is? As we see it it wasn't always there.

Where do you begin with this stuff?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Space/time/energy came into existence from some other more primordial state perhaps, what ever exists is Brahman, whatever does not exist is not Brahman (not anything actually).

Since I do not know the cause of existence, I will keep the question open. The question is not going to be answered in my life-time. Where from space/time/energy pops-up?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Since I do not know the cause of existence, I will keep the question open. The question is not going to be answered in my life-time. Where from space/time/energy pop-up?

Does there have to be a cause? If the cosmic system is eternal, there was never a beginning, therefore the need of a creator does not come up. Nor does time btw.

However all the created forms, from this universe, to galaxies, stars, humans, etc., have beginnings and endings, thus time..

It is easier for me to accept that existence is eternal than it magically coming from nothing.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Does there have to be a cause?

Yeah, I believe there has to be a cause. When we ask for causes of all things under the sun, we can't dismiss this question just by saying universe or God is eternal. That will be cheating.

 

[MonkeyFire]

Space is emptiness and distance and is filled by light. It must be passive like this or nature is never fulfilled, and life, the most precious thing in the he universe, is impossible. Space is filled with nature and the is the defining quality of existence.

 

[rational experiences]

Cosmic space is empty owns nothing.

Form a number sits within empty space otherwise space would only exist as one mass.

We say we exist on a spatial plane.

Meaning planet its owned cosmic space filled in by gases. Gases not as much mass as mass gas demonstrates emptiness also.

Space as tial. All transparent. As light is not on the spatial plane.

Allowing movement freely within it.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Yeah, I believe there has to be a cause. We can't dismiss this question just by saying universe or God is eternal. That will be cheating.

The relation between cause and effect, as we understand it, only pertains if there is a linear flow to time. But in conditions of thermal equilibrium, there is no increase in entropy, therefore no directional flow of time. Thus there is no requirement for a first cause; indeed there is no first anything, nor last.

 

[Aupmanyav]

You need a thermal system to have thermal equilibrium, where did that arise from? Can't escape the question by platitudes.

platitude
noun
- a flat, dull, or trite remark, especially one uttered as if it were fresh or profound.
- the quality or state of being flat, dull, or trite.
Definition of platitude | Dictionary.com

 

[blü 2]

Depending on whom is doing the describing, there are a number of concepts of a reality about that imply omnipresence. There may be more than these?

Dark Energy
Spirit
Higgs Field
Ether
Quantum Field

Obviously these concepts represent realities that must have common aspect/s shared by the other/s.

So what fills the omnipresence of space?

The empty bits? Fields marshaling the energy of the vacuum. Without which, I suspect, there wouldn't be any spatial dimensions.

 

[PureX]

So what confines or limits space to your understanding?

Intellect. Space in an idea created by a binary mental process that needed to label the lack of something between two somethings.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Intellect. Space in an idea created by a binary mental process that needed to label the lack of something between two somethings.

Intellect itself is an idea, an idea is real as an idea, but it is not that which the idea is meant to represent. The idea of space is not real space, merely a pattern of neuron firings that stands for the real thing. I'm not sure if you are serious so I won't go further at this point?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

The empty bits? Fields marshaling the energy of the vacuum. Without which, I suspect, there wouldn't be any spatial dimensions.

I suspect the em frequency spectrum is a continuum, down to the infinitesimal wavelength, hence there are no bits of vacuum in space. I know there is supposed to be wavelength cut off at Planck Length, but there are those who put no such limits on wavelengths.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Yeah, I believe there has to be a cause. When we ask for causes of all things under the sun, we can't dismiss this question just by saying universe or God is eternal. That will be cheating.

But is it logical that just because we observe or deduce that all created things have beginnings, we need to apply this principle to the existence of existence itself, even if it means we have to invent, imagine, or hypothesize a Nothing as the creator?

 

[blü 2]

I suspect the em frequency spectrum is a continuum, down to the infinitesimal wavelength, hence there are no bits of vacuum in space. I know there is supposed to be wavelength cut off at Planck Length, but there are those who put no such limits on wavelengths.

Well, by the time you're down to 1/ 1.616 255 × 10^35 of a meter, who's going to notice if you fudge a bit?

 

[PureX]

Intellect itself is an idea, an idea is real as an idea, but it is not that which the idea is meant to represent. The idea of space is not real space, merely a pattern of neuron firings that stands for the real thing. I'm not sure if you are serious so I won't go further at this point?

Space isn't a thing, it's a cognitive function. A perceptual containment. Space IS an idea.

 

[ChristineM]

Space isn't a thing, it's a cognitive function. A perceptual containment. Space IS an idea.

Space can be measured in length, width and height, can you measure the dimensions of an idea?

 

[Aupmanyav]

But is it logical that just because we observe or deduce that all created things have beginnings, we need to apply this principle to the existence of existence itself, even if it means we have to invent, imagine, or hypothesize a Nothing as the creator?

At one time even flat earth was logical.

 

[RestlessSoul]

You need a thermal system to have thermal equilibrium, where did that arise from? Can't escape the question by platitudes.

platitude
noun
- a flat, dull, or trite remark, especially one uttered as if it were fresh or profound.
- the quality or state of being flat, dull, or trite.
Definition of platitude | Dictionary.com

Ascerbic today then, I see?


The point is, cause and effect may be functions of our own illusory perspective, specifically in relation to time.