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What convinced you to believe Christianity is true?

rusra02

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Premium Member
Micah 5:2: Mentions that a ruler of Israel will be born in Bethlehem. Can Jesus really be said to have ruled over Israel? Have there been no other rulers of Israel from Bethlehem?

Daniel 9:25-27: Kudos to you if you can make sense of any of that. But how do you know that that passage was written exactly 434 years previously?

Isaiah 53: Nothing about a cross. It did mention being pierced, but that can happen in multiple ways. Vague predictions are the easiest ones to fullfill. It also mentions being crushed, and I don't recall any crushing happening to Jesus. It also says that he didn't open his mouth, but I recall Jesus crying out "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"

The answer to your questions is I have made a serious investigation into these prophecies and their fulfillment. I can see that you have not yet done so.
 
Is there a particular argument or experience in your life that convinced you (as a believer) that Christianity is not just another false religion like the thousands of religions that have come and gone throughout the history of humankind?

Thanks in advance for your personal insight into this matter.

Dingleberry.

well, the Holy Spirit is quite a testimony! It is a literal Spirit that enters a true believer and is impossible to deny! It was promised by God and it makes one a "new Creature" . . . .John babtised with water but the one who followed John -who is greater than John "Baptises" with the Holy Spirit and with Fire" . . .

God promises to pour His spirit out on all flesh one day-it will be a disaster for some . .. .those that are appointed to be destroyed that is . . .
 

BIG D

Member
the christians were wrong about Galileo and the inquisition...so they have been proven wrong before.....
 

Blackdog22

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The answer to your questions is I have made a serious investigation into these prophecies and their fulfillment. I can see that you have not yet done so.

Do you mind sharing how the prophesies exclaimed to of been fulfilled actually were? I have yet to see a pin point prophesy, that mentioned Jesus himself, that came true exactly as described. Except for the donkey, but alas I can go ride a donkey into a city as well.

I would love to know exactly what you think the hebrew word for crushed is, or however it is that you made any of this make sense.

I as well, and many others, have done our research and, other than riding on a donkey, Jesus really didn't fulfill much. Nearly every prediction is taken out of context or barely even comes close to being fulfilled.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
The answer to your questions is I have made a serious investigation into these prophecies and their fulfillment. I can see that you have not yet done so.

This isn't an answer, it's a cop out.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
the christians were wrong about Galileo and the inquisition...so they have been proven wrong before.....

What makes you think the criminals responsible for these atrocities were in any sense Christians? A Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ, obeys his commands, and follows his life course. (John 13:34,35, John 14:15, 1 Peter 2:21)
These persons were anything but true Christians. Jesus warned his followers about a great apostasy from true worship, and that is what occurred. (1 John 3:10-12)
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Do you mind sharing how the prophesies exclaimed to of been fulfilled actually were? I have yet to see a pin point prophesy, that mentioned Jesus himself, that came true exactly as described. Except for the donkey, but alas I can go ride a donkey into a city as well.

I would love to know exactly what you think the hebrew word for crushed is, or however it is that you made any of this make sense.

I as well, and many others, have done our research and, other than riding on a donkey, Jesus really didn't fulfill much. Nearly every prediction is taken out of context or barely even comes close to being fulfilled.

Here is but one example. The prophesy at Daniel 9:25-27 explained the exact year of the Messiah's appearing. Verse 25 speaks of 7 weeks, also 62 weeks or 69 weeks after the "going forth of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem". That "word" to rebuild would mark the start of 69 weeks of years (several Bible translations use that phrase) or 7*69 = 483 years. The Bible records that the word to rebuild Jerusalem's walls went forth in the 20th year of king Artaxerxes. (Nehemiah 2:1,5-8)
Historians agree with the Bible that the first year of Artaxerxes reign occurred in 474 B.C.E. The twentieth year of his reign was 455 B.C.E. Starting at that date, and counting 483 years, brings us to the year 29 C.E., the year Jesus was baptized and became the Messiah (or Anointed one). Remember in calculating the date that there is no zero year.
The prophesy also speaks of the Messiah as being "cut off" after the 62 weeks, during the 70th week. verse 27 indicates this would occur at the half of the week. Jesus was put to death after a 3 and 1/2 years ministry.
The prophesy also described the destruction of the city of Jerusalem, which occurred in 70 C.E.

As to Jesus being crushed, the account says "Truly our sicknesses were what he himself carried; and as for our pains, he bore them. But we ourselves accounted him as plagued, stricken by God and afflicted. But he was being pierced for our transgression; he was being crushed for our errors. The chastisement meant for our peace was upon him, and because of his wounds there has been a healing for us.
(Isaiah 53:4,5)

This crushing was not necessarily literal, but rather can refer to Jesus suffering a painful and shameful death on the torture stake. This death was necessary to provide a ransom in exchange for many (Matthew 20:28) Certainly Jesus was pierced literally and wounded. This occurred exactly as foretold, exactly when foretold.
 

BIG D

Member
What makes you think the criminals responsible for these atrocities were in any sense Christians? A Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ, obeys his commands, and follows his life course. (John 13:34,35, John 14:15, 1 Peter 2:21)
These persons were anything but true Christians. Jesus warned his followers about a great apostasy from true worship, and that is what occurred. (1 John 3:10-12)
so, only the 'perfect' christians are true chrisitans??ha
 
Jesus Christ is the reason for Christianity... Christianity is not a religion without Christ. :)


"And as many as have received me, to them have I given to become the sons of God; and even so will I to as many as shall believe on my name, for behold, by me redemption cometh, and in me is the law of Moses fulfilled."

-- 3 Nephi 9:17
 
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