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What do think, is about to happen in Iraq.

kashmir

kashmir

Well-Known Member
columbus said:
Attacking people we don't know is what brought about the ISIS.
And yes we attacked them first. They are people in Iraq. We attacked them in a such a stupid way that we cleared a path for ISIS. We aren't going to get rid of ISIS with bombings any more than we got rid of Taliban and Al Queda that way.

How many times will we have to relearn that lesson? How many innocent people must suffer and die before it sinks in?

The human race is doomed, IMHO, because people like you and ISIS keep believing that some more violence will result in peace your way.

Tom
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wrong, people like me care about the innocents.
People like you keep placing blame where blame is not at.
They been torturing and murdering each other long before USA got involved.

Its like you are saying they had peace and was watching rainbows and pupplydog tails until USA stepped in.

Saddam and his wonderful clan tortured children for fun.
String them up and beat them to see what comes out first and bet on it, then go to a fancy ball and laugh about it, he deserved to hang.

They say the ISIS makes Saddam look like mary poppins, so yah they need to die and be stopped.

Do you even care that right now, some 9 year old girl is being raped until she dies?
Does that even compute?

We stop that, we dont place blame, we stop the horrors at no expense.
 
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columbus

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Do you even care that right now, some 9 year old girl is being raped until she dies?
Does that even compute?
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It's happening in Chicago, Bangkok, Sao Paulo, somewhere in Nigeria. Yes it computes. Airstrikes aren't going to help.
We've done that over and over. It doesn't help.

Does that compute?

Tom
 
Amechania

Amechania

Daimona of the Helpless
There will be internecine violence followed by continued internecine violence culminating in internecine violence, a brief interlude to reload, then a return to internecine violence.
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
kashmir said:
We stop that, we dont place blame, we stop the horrors at no expense.
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Would you agree that stopping this at the expense of a US recession is worth it?
What I hear you saying is that you would spare no expense. But what I mostly hear from people similar to you is "Guns and bombs, we need that oil!" I don't know that you have said it, but you didn't respond to my suggestions, cutting off petro-imports and weapons shipments.

Tom
 
beenie

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
columbus said:
Attacking people we don't know is what brought about the ISIS.
And yes we attacked them first. They are people in Iraq. We attacked them in a such a stupid way that we cleared a path for ISIS. We aren't going to get rid of ISIS with bombings any more than we got rid of Taliban and Al Queda that way.

How many times will we have to relearn that lesson? How many innocent people must suffer and die before it sinks in?

The human race is doomed, IMHO, because people like you and ISIS keep believing that some more violence will result in peace your way.

Tom
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To this I say :clap

Clearly the ISIS situation needs to be addressed, but two failed "wars" later, it's pretty obvious the US's approach isn't working. Time to come up with a new strategy. I don't know what it is, but "shock and awe" attacks are not the answer.
 
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seeking4truth

Active Member
Isn't it all about control of the oil producing regions.

Why have the Syrians been left to slaughter each other and destroy all hope for the next generation but not the Iraqis?
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
seeking4truth said:
Isn't it all about control of the oil producing regions.

Why have the Syrians been left to slaughter each other and destroy all hope for the next generation but not the Iraqis?
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Control of the petroleum is obviously the goal of western countries.

But what is happening here is Muslims slaughtering each other.
I'm not sure why. I don't pretend to understand the motivation. But it is not control of petroleum dollars.

Tom
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

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Staff member
Premium Member
Here's a far out idea. An alternative is to adopt Iraq as the 51st state, assume full responsibility for the situation and give Iraqis the vote for real.
 
Farrukh

Farrukh

Active Member
prophecy is going to come true,
check my another post that mentioned prophecy related to Euphrates river and mountain of gold
you can check news, Turkey has closed water supply to Iraq and Euphrates is drying up at very high rate.
ISIS have already got control on Euphrates at many places and now attacking 2nd largest dam.
now if mountain of gold appears in few days/months, 99% of people who will fight there will get killed, and finally NATO forces will come here.
so, how is the story?
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I predict that history will repeat itself,
that politicians will be astonished by this,
& that their solutions will also be a repeat.

The one thing history teaches us is that
history teaches us nothing.
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
I predict that history will repeat itself,
that politicians will be astonished by this,
& that their solutions will also be a repeat.

The one thing history teaches us is that
history teaches us nothing.
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Cheer up, friend. "Energy and persistence conquer all things." -- Benjamin Franklin
 
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