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What do we do about Iran?
- Thread starter JRMcC
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- Any deal that enables a nuclear Iran is an existential threat to Israel and criminally irresponsible.
- The repercussions of a military attack on Iran would likely dwarf the current problem with Daesh.
- The Netanyahu speech is not about countering the existential threat of a nuclear Iran. It's about Netanyahu and the Republicans irresponsibly pursuing partisan political gains.
Iran is a sovereign country which has greatly suffered from our coup & attack (by our proxy, Iraq). We owe it to them to negotiate whatever we can achieve for mutual benefit. Israel will complain bitterly....well, tough titties for them.
gsa
Well-Known Member
If we can strike a deal with Iran, a deal that ends the standoff over the nuclear program, we should do it.
I will say that while I am sympathetic with Israel’s concerns about an Iranian government armed with nuclear weapons, this is the kind of "existential threat" that the United States has lived with for half a century, with Russia. The United States has no interest in seeing any country obtain nuclear weapons, certainly not a longtime foe like the Iranian theocracy, and we are not handmaidens of Israel. We have our own interests that we should pursue regardless of Israel’s objections.
As for Netanyahu, I hope that the Israeli electorate will do the right thing and oust him. As Meir Dagan, who was director of the Mossad from 2002-2010 said just recently, Netanyahu himself has been the biggest problem with the US/Israel partnership on the question of Iran. And Americans should be upset by the way he pisses on us and interferes in our domestic politics for his own benefit so flagrantly. Netanyahu’s government has no respect for the United States or the American people. Maybe we should begin giving him the same treatment at the United Nations Security Council.
I will say that while I am sympathetic with Israel’s concerns about an Iranian government armed with nuclear weapons, this is the kind of "existential threat" that the United States has lived with for half a century, with Russia. The United States has no interest in seeing any country obtain nuclear weapons, certainly not a longtime foe like the Iranian theocracy, and we are not handmaidens of Israel. We have our own interests that we should pursue regardless of Israel’s objections.
As for Netanyahu, I hope that the Israeli electorate will do the right thing and oust him. As Meir Dagan, who was director of the Mossad from 2002-2010 said just recently, Netanyahu himself has been the biggest problem with the US/Israel partnership on the question of Iran. And Americans should be upset by the way he pisses on us and interferes in our domestic politics for his own benefit so flagrantly. Netanyahu’s government has no respect for the United States or the American people. Maybe we should begin giving him the same treatment at the United Nations Security Council.
Assuming you are speaking to a USonian audience the obvious answer is to stop importing fossil fuels. Without petrodollars Iran would cease to be newsworthy.
Tom
Astrologer
Member
Iran hasn't interfered with my ability to enjoy life. Zionists have been disturbing my sensibilities for a long time, now.
And to hell with everybody else. Despicable ...
gsa
Well-Known Member
Why would we attack Iran right now, of all times? They're opponents of the Islamic State, and you know what they say about the enemy of my enemy...
Are you describing Israel's attitude?
I'd agree with that.
Their desire to bring us to war with Iran is unconscionable & inhuman.
I'd call it "barbaric", but that would be insulting to barbarians.
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CMike
Well-Known Member
Iran has been the center of evil.
They have supported Al Qadia, Hezbollah, and Hamas.
Iran has consistently threatened to attack the US, and to annihiliate Israel.
Iranian Cleric Threatens US, Israel With 'Missile Attack'
Iran threatens US Navy with ‘suicide missions’ | Fox News
Iranian Revolutionary Guards threaten US after Kerry says military option is ‘ready’ - International - Jerusalem Post
Iran Threatens to Annihilate Israel - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva
Iran President Ahmedinejad Threatens U.S. War Without Boundaries If Nuclear Faclities Attacked - ABC News
Their leadership claims they are not afraid of death.
Therefore, WHEN they get nukes they will not be afraid to use it. They will most likely give it to some of their many proxies.
Chamberlain, err Obama should realize this.
Iran constantly threatens Israel with annihiliation. Iran is not a threat to Israel but to the whole world. They are working on ICBMs which they don't need to nuke to Israel. They are for long range targets such as to reach the US.
Netanyahu is spot on. He is indeed a patriot. He is doing what he needs to do in order to protect his country from death. To bad Obumbler isn't doing the same.
Obama is just a spoiled weak little brat to every country but Israel. He needs to go home and let adults deal with world politics.
Obama has helped create perhaps the most dangerous world we ever had.
Israel took out the Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981. The US condemned it. However, imagine invading Iraq, with Iraq having nukes.
Israel took out the Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007.
Since we have a baby in the White House, Israel needs to take out the Iranian nuclear reactor.
Obviously Obama doesn't have balls to do what needs to be done. Israel should do so before they complete their ridiculous agreement which will legitimize Iran's race to get nukes.
They have supported Al Qadia, Hezbollah, and Hamas.
Iran has consistently threatened to attack the US, and to annihiliate Israel.
Iranian Cleric Threatens US, Israel With 'Missile Attack'
Iran threatens US Navy with ‘suicide missions’ | Fox News
Iranian Revolutionary Guards threaten US after Kerry says military option is ‘ready’ - International - Jerusalem Post
Iran Threatens to Annihilate Israel - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva
Iran President Ahmedinejad Threatens U.S. War Without Boundaries If Nuclear Faclities Attacked - ABC News
Their leadership claims they are not afraid of death.
Therefore, WHEN they get nukes they will not be afraid to use it. They will most likely give it to some of their many proxies.
Chamberlain, err Obama should realize this.
Iran constantly threatens Israel with annihiliation. Iran is not a threat to Israel but to the whole world. They are working on ICBMs which they don't need to nuke to Israel. They are for long range targets such as to reach the US.
Netanyahu is spot on. He is indeed a patriot. He is doing what he needs to do in order to protect his country from death. To bad Obumbler isn't doing the same.
Obama is just a spoiled weak little brat to every country but Israel. He needs to go home and let adults deal with world politics.
Obama has helped create perhaps the most dangerous world we ever had.
Israel took out the Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981. The US condemned it. However, imagine invading Iraq, with Iraq having nukes.
Israel took out the Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007.
Since we have a baby in the White House, Israel needs to take out the Iranian nuclear reactor.
Obviously Obama doesn't have balls to do what needs to be done. Israel should do so before they complete their ridiculous agreement which will legitimize Iran's race to get nukes.
CMike
Well-Known Member
Because they support Al Qaida, Hezbollah, Hamas, and are the center of almost all arab terrorist organizations.
They also have constantly threatened to attack the US and Israel.
That's why.
CMike
Well-Known Member
Imagine the war WHEN Iran gets nukes and gives some to Al Qaida to bomb New York and Washington DC.
And knowing that the US could have stopped this from happening and didn't. Instead they were playing games.
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BSM1
What? Me worry?
This seems a very unlikely scenario.
The Jews will just be killing their families in NYC.
CMike
Well-Known Member
You're not making any sense here.
Telling them that your post #14 posits a very unlikely scenario serves what purpose?