What Do We Owe God?

[Skwim]

I'm comfortable with that.

Of course. It puts an end to any further discussion of your exceedingly strange argument:

"Whatever happens is ultimately beneficial"
Suicide happens
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Suicide is ultimately beneficial. . . .

A classic Barbra syllogism. (For those of you who are unaware, in Judaism suicide has traditionally been viewed as a serious sin.)

 

[allfoak]

You have no choice @dave_ God gave you life and now you have to live it.
Suicide does not work.
You have an eternal soul that is destined for perfection no matter how hard you fight it.

 

[Aiviu]

Assuming there is a god he doesn't guarantee that he will protect us if we are nice and do what he says.He doesn't guarantee he will give us food , protection , shelter etc and we are responsible for ourselves.Basically we ourselves provide everything to ourselves and deserve all the credit.Even if we assuime god created this game we call life still we are playing the game with our own willpower and he gave most people mostly suffering.So what do we owe to the god?Why?

You wrote that we are responsible for anything. And suddently He is the one who is responsible for the suffering?

 

[Quintessence]

Assuming there is a god he doesn't guarantee that he will protect us if we are nice and do what he says.He doesn't guarantee he will give us food , protection , shelter etc and we are responsible for ourselves.Basically we ourselves provide everything to ourselves and deserve all the credit.Even if we assuime god created this game we call life still we are playing the game with our own willpower and he gave most people mostly suffering.So what do we owe to the god?Why?

Under this particular set of assumptions? Very little to nothing.

That said, I do not agree with the assumptions.

 

[Jiddanand]

God protects. Satan misuses. Take things accordingly.

 

[Jiddanand]

It's eternal fight between the God the Creator and the Satan the user and tester.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

An eternal fight between an omnipotent being and a lesser being. That makes no sense.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Assuming there is a god he doesn't guarantee that he will protect us if we are nice and do what he says.He doesn't guarantee he will give us food , protection , shelter etc and we are responsible for ourselves.Basically we ourselves provide everything to ourselves and deserve all the credit.Even if we assuime god created this game we call life still we are playing the game with our own willpower and he gave most people mostly suffering.So what do we owe to the god?Why?

" I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service." Romans 12:1

 

[sandy whitelinger]

You do recognize, don't you, that some people commit suicide because they can no longer tolerate the "beneficial" pain they're undergoing. Or is suicide no longer a sin, but an acceptable response to suffering?

I fail to understand what your first sentence has to do with your second sentence.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

"What do we owe God?"
His son.

Um, I'm not sure we have the ability to give God His Son back to Him.

 

[rusra02]

Assuming there is a god he doesn't guarantee that he will protect us if we are nice and do what he says.He doesn't guarantee he will give us food , protection , shelter etc and we are responsible for ourselves.Basically we ourselves provide everything to ourselves and deserve all the credit.Even if we assuime god created this game we call life still we are playing the game with our own willpower and he gave most people mostly suffering.So what do we owe to the god?Why?

I believe God gave us life and the means to sustain our lives. The Bible explains why we are in the mess we're in and how God will fix it. I think we owe it to ourselves to get his side of the story.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Um, I'm not sure we have the ability to give God His Son back to Him.

I think we do.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

I think we do.

Thinking does not make it so. The Bible says that Jesus returned to His Father which means neither you nor I have Him to give away.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I believe God gave us life and the means to sustain our lives. The Bible explains why we are in the mess we're in and how God will fix it. I think we owe it to ourselves to get his side of the story.

Well, Jesus has been here and the world still acts the way it always has. Does Jesus have a performance survey we can turn in to God?

 

[Sleeppy]

Can't withhold anything from God.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..He doesn't guarantee he will give us food , protection , shelter etc and we are responsible for ourselves.Basically we ourselves provide everything to ourselves and deserve all the credit..

You might think that, but it is incorrect. What food and drink would you have if it stopped raining?
What's the likelihood of finding work after a serious traffic accident?

Who feeds the animals and birds?
None but Almighty God!

 

[Robert.Evans]

Thinking does not make it so. The Bible says that Jesus returned to His Father which means neither you nor I have Him to give away.

he also says, We will come to you and make our home with you.

 

[rusra02]

Well, Jesus has been here and the world still acts the way it always has. Does Jesus have a performance survey we can turn in to God?

Jesus said in prayer to God; "Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I know you." (John 17:25) Only those who truly follow Christ likewise know the Father, IMO. The rest of the world does not know the Father, nor do they care to.