What do you make of God/s

[viole]

I am not sure naturalists would agree.or understand

Try me.

Ciao

- viole

 

[BSL]

Try me.

Ciao

- viole

Try me.

Ciao

- viole

Divinity is a natural phenomenon

 

[BSL]

In Judaism, HaShem is sometimes used. YHWH as well.

For sufism it depends. Sufis that align with Islam often use "Hu" (Allah Hu) or one of the traditional Islamic 99 Names of God. Also "Parvardigar" or "Khuda" will sometimes be used.

In the West especially there are sufi groups that are not associated with Islam so the name used are the English or other national languages words for "God".

So you would say HaShem is Truth?

 

[LuisDantas]

That's all that is notable

Really? It is not supposed to.

 

[BSL]

Society - to enourage you to do things which help it and to discourage you from doing something that will harm it. Carrot and sword.

The Hindu word for 'unknowable' is 'ajneya'. Scripture describe it as 'neti, neti' (na iti: not it), in its full understdanding - 'not this, not that'. Some say it is this, others say it is that, basically unknowable). 'Jnana' is knowledge, 'ajneya' is what cannot be known. That is Brahman.

What about God?

 

[BSL]

Speaking of “gods” outside of the context of mythology or of sociology is misleading. Even saying “God exists” is misleading, since it suggests that among all other things that exist, one more, namely God, also exists. That’s not theism’s claim at all.

We all agree that many things exist. For example, ourselves, colors, apples, time, numbers, beauty, and so on. These existents are of a different kind but they all exist. The question that philosophers have wondered for thousands of years is about the nature of existence itself. The corresponding field of philosophy is called “metaphysics”, or more properly “ontology”.

Today they are two main theories:

One is the naturalistic or non-religious theory according to which the nature of existence is fundamentally mechanical. Many naturalists moreover believe that existence is basically (but perhaps not exclusively) physical. Naturalism is how most self-confessing atheists believe reality is.

The other is the religious theory according to which existence is fundamentally spiritual, and thus non-mechanical but of a good and meaningful fundamental nature. Within this broad view we have theism according to which all that exists is created and grounded on the most perfect conceivable being, and thus all-loving, all-knowledgeable, all-powerful, and so on.

Thus instead of saying “God exists” the more appropriate way to speak would be that “existence is God-structured” or “existence is God-based”.

Would you say the self is a natural or spiritual phenomenon

 

[BSL]

Really? It is not supposed to.

I think so

 

[LuisDantas]

I think so

But it is just a tiny detail of who/what I am. One with hardly any consequence.

 

[BSL]

But it is just a tiny detail of who/what I am. One with hardly any consequence.

I think so too

 

[Dianelos Georgoudis]

Would you say the self is a natural or spiritual phenomenon

On theism the self is a being not a phenomenon.

Even on naturalism it is wrong to think of the self as a phenomenon. Phenomena are impressions of conscious experience (look it up in the dictionary). Thus in a physical reality without conscious beings around (say in our universe millions of years after the big bang) there are no phenomena but only physical states.

So I am sorry to say your question makes no sense to me. Perhaps you´d like to rephrase it.

 

[BSL]

On theism the self is a being not a phenomenon.

Even on naturalism it is wrong to think of the self as a phenomenon. Phenomena are impressions of conscious experience (look it up in the dictionary). Thus in a physical reality without conscious beings around (say in our universe millions of years after the big bang) there are no phenomena but only physical states.

So I am sorry to say your question makes no sense to me. Perhaps you´d like to rephrase it.

Is the self physical or spiritual

 

[Dianelos Georgoudis]

Is the self physical or spiritual

On theism the self is spiritual.

On naturalism it depends. Those who believe in materialism would certainly say that the self is physical. Or perhaps that it is an illusion. On naturalism many every-day concepts become rather vague.

 

[BSL]

On theism the self is spiritual.

On naturalism it depends. Those who believe in materialism would certainly say that the self is physical. Or perhaps that it is an illusion. On naturalism many every-day concepts become rather vague.

And what would you say the self is

 

[BSL]

They're fundamentally rooted in the same vagaries of the human psyche.

So different types of personalities?

 

[Dianelos Georgoudis]

And what would you say the self is

Ah, if you are a conscious person you can't help but know what the self is: it is what you mean when you say "I". If you are not, then you can't possibly understand it.

Anyway, nice talking to you.

 

[arthra]

Believer/Non-believer, what do you make of the God/s that you know of or pray/ed to

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What do I make of God?....
Through out my life I've had a sense that God has been near to me ... Like a Father ... that His love has been and will be around me and my loved ones and people I do not know... and no matter which Holy Book I've read I've encountered Him through words of Divine Inspiration. and in the course of my life I have become thankful for all that we have received ... the wonderful moments where His works continues to amaze me and I testify to my own nothingness and incapacity in the presence of such grandeur and mercy... pure love.

 

[BSL]

Ah, if you are a conscious person you can't help but know what the self is: it is what you mean when you say "I". If you are not, then you can't possibly understand it.

Anyway, nice talking to you.

It's been a pleasure

 

[osgart]

Yeah, but what do you think is the source of the heaven and hell psycho babble

fear I would have to say.

either preying on the naive, or being naive with need to buy into such a thing

 

[Viraja]

Believer/Non-believer, what do you make of the God/s that you know of or pray/ed to

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What I make of my most beloved deity, Sri Ramachandra (Dharmic deity) -

- That he is beyond many levels of spiritual ascension and is one with Brahman (the formless primordial masculine principle).

 

[BSL]

What I make of my most beloved deity, Sri Ramachandra (Dharmic deity) -

- That he is beyond many levels of spiritual ascension and is one with Brahman (the formless primordial masculine principle).

By Brahman you mean the 'ajneya' @Aupmanyav spoke of in #50?