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What does a typical service in a mosque look like?
- Thread starter Treks
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Cordoba
Well-Known Member
Hello Trecks
There is a difference between the noon prayer on Friday, and the other 34 weekly congregational prayers.
In congregational prayers, after the caller to prayer says the adhan (i.e. call to prayer) we usually wait around 10 or 15 minutes for other people to arrive after hearing the call, and till then people in the mosque may pray an optional prayer on their own.
10 or 15 minutes after the adhan, a second shorter call to prayer is said for people to stand in line, and the leader of the prayer (the imam) takes the front position to lead the prayer.
When the prayer is over, worshipers say "salam" to the right then to the left, and the prayer ends there. People then often wait a few minutes to say their supplications.
On Friday, there is an extra part to the prayer as before praying the Imam gives the Friday sermon. This normally lasts around 30 minutes (a bit more or a bit less depending on the mosque), then he descends from the pulpit and leads the Friday prayer.
For a sample of a Friday prayer, you may wish to watch this video when you have time:
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Friday's Speech by Sheikh Suhaib Webb on Graduation[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
This is the time of year for graduation of young people from learning institutions
The topic of last week's speech by Sheikh Suhaib Webb in Boston was reflections on graduation in this life and graduation in the Hereafter
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Imam Suhaib Webb - Graduation (ISBCC Khutba 4/27/2012) - YouTube
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All the best
There is a difference between the noon prayer on Friday, and the other 34 weekly congregational prayers.
In congregational prayers, after the caller to prayer says the adhan (i.e. call to prayer) we usually wait around 10 or 15 minutes for other people to arrive after hearing the call, and till then people in the mosque may pray an optional prayer on their own.
10 or 15 minutes after the adhan, a second shorter call to prayer is said for people to stand in line, and the leader of the prayer (the imam) takes the front position to lead the prayer.
When the prayer is over, worshipers say "salam" to the right then to the left, and the prayer ends there. People then often wait a few minutes to say their supplications.
On Friday, there is an extra part to the prayer as before praying the Imam gives the Friday sermon. This normally lasts around 30 minutes (a bit more or a bit less depending on the mosque), then he descends from the pulpit and leads the Friday prayer.
For a sample of a Friday prayer, you may wish to watch this video when you have time:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Friday's Speech by Sheikh Suhaib Webb on Graduation[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
This is the time of year for graduation of young people from learning institutions
The topic of last week's speech by Sheikh Suhaib Webb in Boston was reflections on graduation in this life and graduation in the Hereafter
[youtube]SQ_9yTfgfaE[/youtube]
Imam Suhaib Webb - Graduation (ISBCC Khutba 4/27/2012) - YouTube
[/FONT](35 minutes)
All the best
Pastek
Sunni muslim
I only prayed in the mosque when i did my pilgrimage.
Generally you have to come earlier at the friday's prayer because there's many people.
Most of time people try when it's possible to have their friday afternoon free.
In muslim countries most of time the week-end is thursday-friday.
You have to check the time of the prayer and go earlier and be prepared (have made wudhu or you do it at the mosque).
Then like said Cordoba, people do an optional prayer when they come in the mosque.
It's the sunna, meaning that what muslims used to do in the time of the Prophet Muhammad (saw).
People wait until the Imam starts the sermon.
Then he leads the prayer. Some people go, other stay and make du'a.
It's better to go early and take the place in the front (behind the Imam).
And people must be shoulder to shoulder (don't let space between them).
That's all, it's very simple. The prayer is not long, the Imam chose what verses he will recite but muslim's prayers are not long, i think less than 10 minutes.
Only the Imam speaks. People listen, and just say "Ameen" at the end of the first sourate (which is always "El fatiha") and must be always said 2 times in each prayer.
If you really want to see how is the friday prayer, check the channel of Majsed el Haram (Mecca) on friday if you can.
It's in live, the prayer there now is around 12am i think (Mecca time) : [youtube]akLGY4Yeig8[/youtube]
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There's no difference between sunni, shia or others there.
Generally you have to come earlier at the friday's prayer because there's many people.
Most of time people try when it's possible to have their friday afternoon free.
In muslim countries most of time the week-end is thursday-friday.
You have to check the time of the prayer and go earlier and be prepared (have made wudhu or you do it at the mosque).
Then like said Cordoba, people do an optional prayer when they come in the mosque.
It's the sunna, meaning that what muslims used to do in the time of the Prophet Muhammad (saw).
People wait until the Imam starts the sermon.
Then he leads the prayer. Some people go, other stay and make du'a.
It's better to go early and take the place in the front (behind the Imam).
And people must be shoulder to shoulder (don't let space between them).
That's all, it's very simple. The prayer is not long, the Imam chose what verses he will recite but muslim's prayers are not long, i think less than 10 minutes.
Only the Imam speaks. People listen, and just say "Ameen" at the end of the first sourate (which is always "El fatiha") and must be always said 2 times in each prayer.
If you really want to see how is the friday prayer, check the channel of Majsed el Haram (Mecca) on friday if you can.
It's in live, the prayer there now is around 12am i think (Mecca time) : [youtube]akLGY4Yeig8[/youtube]
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There's no difference between sunni, shia or others there.
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on you.
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Source:https://www.alislam.org/salaat/
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Source:Friday Prayer (Jumma)
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Mosques
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Mosque from inside and Friday sermon, for example:
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Women and Prayer
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Etiquettes in the Mosque
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Treks
Well-Known Member
Thanks everyone for your replies. Pastek ji I did submit a reply the other night but for some reason it didn't come through. When I tuned in to your clip it was of some beautiful music watching people walking around the Kaaba. I was very impressed by the beautiful writing around the top of Kaaba. I like Islamic calligraphy, which is why I chose a stylized Ik Onkar (Sikh) symbol for my profile picture which looks to me a little bit similar in style.
I really like the 'Etiquettes in the Mosque' link.
Assad I am getting the impression it's very simple at the mosque.
Do people do anything different at the mosque? Do you have a hall for food where you have celebrations, after prayers do you socialise, do you have different rooms for men and women? Do they usually have a library? Do they have teaching programs?
Thank you
I really like the 'Etiquettes in the Mosque' link.
Assad I am getting the impression it's very simple at the mosque.
Do people do anything different at the mosque? Do you have a hall for food where you have celebrations, after prayers do you socialise, do you have different rooms for men and women? Do they usually have a library? Do they have teaching programs?
Thank you
Pastek
Sunni muslim
You're welcome
It's chant but without music.
In fact, when you are in Mecca there's no one reciting the Qu'ran (exept during prayers' time).
It's just for the tv.
What is recovering the Kaaba is called "kiswa", they change it every year.
Treks
Well-Known Member
Hmm, it sounded melodious enough to me.
Ohoh!! Lucky me! I started playing it and they started praying! It looks really cool how the guys are lined up circular around the Kaaba and then they prostrate - it's a circular sea of backs, then they all sit up again, and when they stand up for a second it's all disorganised but like some ocean creature they arrange back into the perfect circular lines. Fascinating to watch! Thanks for sharing.
Can Muslims go to Kaaba and circle around it at any time? I had it in my mind you only did it a a certain time, at Hajj?
Ohoh!! Lucky me! I started playing it and they started praying! It looks really cool how the guys are lined up circular around the Kaaba and then they prostrate - it's a circular sea of backs, then they all sit up again, and when they stand up for a second it's all disorganised but like some ocean creature they arrange back into the perfect circular lines. Fascinating to watch! Thanks for sharing.
Can Muslims go to Kaaba and circle around it at any time? I had it in my mind you only did it a a certain time, at Hajj?
Pastek
Sunni muslim
Yes muslims circumbulate every day.
In fact we have the "little pilgrimage" which is called 'Omra, and you can do it anytime.
The Hajj (pilgrimage) is once a year. It's approximately 2 months after the end of Ramadhan.
So this year it will start in october and the hajj will finish the day of "aid el adhha" (the day of sacrifice).
Most of time people stay 2 weeks in Mecca and one in Medina. But Medina is not part of the Hajj.
In this channel you can see the mosque of Madina in live.
It will be crowded at the end of the Hajj as people go there just after to saluate the Prophet Muhammad (he is buried in the mosque with Abu Bakr (the father of Aisha) and Omar (2nd Caliph after Abu Bakr).
[youtube]1VG4djofFuk[/youtube]
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It's also crowded during the month of Ramadhan because the 'Omra (little pilgrimage) at that time has the equivalence of a Hajj.
dynavert2012
Active Member
Plus all the comprehensive answers above, but there are other services that can be performed in the Masjed
for example Ramadan is a holy month which we are commanded to fast it's day and it's preferable to do tahjud in the night, tahjud is an optional prayer which can be done allover the year at home, but the majority of people performing it during Ramadan only mostly in mosques, it's a prayer which is little long than other prayers and mostly the Imam of the mosque recited all of the quran along ramdan in that prayer, it extends for about 90 Minutes in the majority mosques here in Egypt
here's a video showing it and as you see there's no place in the mosque so the people fill the streets
[youtube]uN2i1hVVvQU[/youtube]
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Also during ramdan there's something called ietekaf it's optional too, it's full staying in the mosque, this happens during the last 10 days of Ramadan, so who wills to do it, once he put his right foot in the mosque he intended not to go out except by the last day of ramdan, this can be done only in the mosques and there's a seperate places for men and women, and these places become like camps, everything is available and surly this can be done in the big mosques to provide the sleeping places and have big bathrooms provided with showers, etc,.. not alot of ppl could do it because of the work and schools, but it's really too spiritual to stay in the mosque for 10 days away from the external life
also there's the studying rings can be held in the mosques, where the scholar or the Imam arranged lectures and lessons to the people allover the days of the week, for example making saturday and tuesday to study the prophet's bio, sunday and wensday for the quran, monday and thursday for hadith, and who wills to attend he can do it when he wishes as it's optional but it has great rewards
Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, "Allah, the Exalted, has teams of angels who go about on the roads seeking those who remember Allah. When they find some people remembering Allah they call to one another and say, `Come to what you are looking for;' and they surround them with their wings till the space between them and the lowest sky is fully covered. Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, asks them (although He is best informed about every thing): `What are my slave saying?' They say: `They are glorifying Your Tasbih, Tahmid, Takbir, Tamjid, (i.e., they were declaring Your Perfectness, praising, remembering the Greatness and Majesty of Allah).' He asks: `Have they seen Me?' They reply, `No, indeed, they have not seen You.' He asks: `How would they act if they were to see Me?' Thereupon they reply: `If they were to see You, they would engage more earnestly in worshipping and glorifying You and would extol You more.' He would say: `What do they beg of Me?' They say, `They beg You for Your Jannah.' Allah says, `Have they seen My Jannah?' They say, `No, our Rubb.' He says: `How would they act if they were to see My Jannah?' They reply, `Were they to see it, they would more intensely eager for it.' They (the angels) say, `They seek Your Protection.' He asks, `Against what do they seek My Protection?' They (the angels) say, `Our Rubb, from the fire of Hell.' (He, the Rubb) says, `Have they seen the fire of Hell?' They say, `No. By Your Honour, they have not seen it.' He says: `How would they act if they were to see My Fire?' They say: `If they were to see it, they would more earnest in being away from it and fearing it. They beg of Your forgiveness.' He says: `I call you to witness that I hereby grant pardon to them and confer upon them what they ask for; and grant them protection against what they seek protection from.' One of the angels says: `Our Rubb, there is amongst them such and such slave who does not belong to the assembly of those who are participating in Your remembrance. He passed by them and sat down with them.' He says: `I also grant him pardon because they are the people by virtue of whom their associates will not be unfortunate'.''
also there's some rings for the kids to teach and memorize the Quran as in the video below
[youtube]d-4oeZVxTDc[/youtube]
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hope this could satisfy your question
i'm not aware about Shia and Ahmadya, but i think it would be the same
for example Ramadan is a holy month which we are commanded to fast it's day and it's preferable to do tahjud in the night, tahjud is an optional prayer which can be done allover the year at home, but the majority of people performing it during Ramadan only mostly in mosques, it's a prayer which is little long than other prayers and mostly the Imam of the mosque recited all of the quran along ramdan in that prayer, it extends for about 90 Minutes in the majority mosques here in Egypt
here's a video showing it and as you see there's no place in the mosque so the people fill the streets
[youtube]uN2i1hVVvQU[/youtube]
‫
Also during ramdan there's something called ietekaf it's optional too, it's full staying in the mosque, this happens during the last 10 days of Ramadan, so who wills to do it, once he put his right foot in the mosque he intended not to go out except by the last day of ramdan, this can be done only in the mosques and there's a seperate places for men and women, and these places become like camps, everything is available and surly this can be done in the big mosques to provide the sleeping places and have big bathrooms provided with showers, etc,.. not alot of ppl could do it because of the work and schools, but it's really too spiritual to stay in the mosque for 10 days away from the external life
also there's the studying rings can be held in the mosques, where the scholar or the Imam arranged lectures and lessons to the people allover the days of the week, for example making saturday and tuesday to study the prophet's bio, sunday and wensday for the quran, monday and thursday for hadith, and who wills to attend he can do it when he wishes as it's optional but it has great rewards
Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, "Allah, the Exalted, has teams of angels who go about on the roads seeking those who remember Allah. When they find some people remembering Allah they call to one another and say, `Come to what you are looking for;' and they surround them with their wings till the space between them and the lowest sky is fully covered. Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, asks them (although He is best informed about every thing): `What are my slave saying?' They say: `They are glorifying Your Tasbih, Tahmid, Takbir, Tamjid, (i.e., they were declaring Your Perfectness, praising, remembering the Greatness and Majesty of Allah).' He asks: `Have they seen Me?' They reply, `No, indeed, they have not seen You.' He asks: `How would they act if they were to see Me?' Thereupon they reply: `If they were to see You, they would engage more earnestly in worshipping and glorifying You and would extol You more.' He would say: `What do they beg of Me?' They say, `They beg You for Your Jannah.' Allah says, `Have they seen My Jannah?' They say, `No, our Rubb.' He says: `How would they act if they were to see My Jannah?' They reply, `Were they to see it, they would more intensely eager for it.' They (the angels) say, `They seek Your Protection.' He asks, `Against what do they seek My Protection?' They (the angels) say, `Our Rubb, from the fire of Hell.' (He, the Rubb) says, `Have they seen the fire of Hell?' They say, `No. By Your Honour, they have not seen it.' He says: `How would they act if they were to see My Fire?' They say: `If they were to see it, they would more earnest in being away from it and fearing it. They beg of Your forgiveness.' He says: `I call you to witness that I hereby grant pardon to them and confer upon them what they ask for; and grant them protection against what they seek protection from.' One of the angels says: `Our Rubb, there is amongst them such and such slave who does not belong to the assembly of those who are participating in Your remembrance. He passed by them and sat down with them.' He says: `I also grant him pardon because they are the people by virtue of whom their associates will not be unfortunate'.''
also there's some rings for the kids to teach and memorize the Quran as in the video below
[youtube]d-4oeZVxTDc[/youtube]
‫
hope this could satisfy your question
i'm not aware about Shia and Ahmadya, but i think it would be the same
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on you. Thank you.
= Mosques are basically for prayers.
= When it is not Salaat / Prayer time, Islamic learning classes for children and grown ups and activities can be done if other rooms are not available for such activities.
For food and social activities, halls are different.
After the prayers, faithful meet each other with true sense of piousness that keep them informed about each other but business activities, buying selling matters are not allowed in mosque.
Men and women do not mix, (however they have partitioned area for Salaat offering, which Imam leads). Ahmadiyya Muslims Ladies have their auxiliary (like men -- all auxiliaries are under Holy Khalifah ) which makes their spiritual programes.
Libraries are available seperately.
You will find much these things in Ahmadiyya Muslim mosques and adjacent mission houses. You are cordially welcome to visit them in your area.
Please allow me to humbly add some important information. Since you are interested in mosques and activities, at this stage, may I say, that according to Ahmadiyya Promised Messiah Mahdi [the awaited promised reformer for faith for latter days, which according to Ahmadiyya Muslims has come in 1889 in India]--- Hazrat Baba Guru Nanak sahib was a Muslim saint. He furnished proves and wrote a book:
Source:https://www.alislam.org/books/religiousknowledge/sec5.html
Sat Bachan is present here in Urdu language:https://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/Ruhani-Khazain-Vol-10.pdf
More:
https://www.alislam.org/library/sikhism.html
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Treks
Well-Known Member
Thanks again Pastek, Dynavert and Dawud. Are non-Muslims allowed in Mosques? Obviously not Kaaba, that much I do know.
It's interesting to think of spending 10 days straight in the Mosque - I can imagine that being an awesome experience. Do you think many Muslims actually do it?
Dawud ji, thanks for sharing with regards to Guru Nanak Sahib Ji, however I humbly disagree with the statement that he was a Muslim, and will leave it there.
Many thanks
It's interesting to think of spending 10 days straight in the Mosque - I can imagine that being an awesome experience. Do you think many Muslims actually do it?
Dawud ji, thanks for sharing with regards to Guru Nanak Sahib Ji, however I humbly disagree with the statement that he was a Muslim, and will leave it there.
Many thanks
dynavert2012
Active Member
Non Muslims could spend time in any mosque excluding as you said the kaaba, the prophet met some Christians in the mosque, Islam is tolerant with that, no matterThanks again Pastek, Dynavert and Dawud. Are non-Muslims allowed in Mosques? Obviously not Kaaba, that much I do know.
not too much of people could spend the ten days continuously in the mosque due to work and schools, this year about 54 people stayed in the mosque i was praying at, but most of people spend the ten nights in the mosque, and went in the morning to the work.
Pastek
Sunni muslim
You're welcome
Yes non-muslims are allowed in mosques exept in Mecca and Medina.
It's quite expensive and there are quotas for each country.
Some people even have to wait many years.
I think it's more easy for someone in Europe/America because there's not very much muslims than in Pakistan or Indonesia for exemple. I decided to go just 2 months before the beginning of the Hajj and i was accepted, but i'm from Europe, that's easier. So i was very lucky
As you can see there's people everyday circumbulating so yes, many muslims go there.
They are even building new hotels next to the Kaaba and they added the little thing white for people who circumbulate. It's new, I guess that's because there's too much people but it wasn't there some months ago or when i went.
Yes non-muslims are allowed in mosques exept in Mecca and Medina.
It's quite expensive and there are quotas for each country.
Some people even have to wait many years.
I think it's more easy for someone in Europe/America because there's not very much muslims than in Pakistan or Indonesia for exemple. I decided to go just 2 months before the beginning of the Hajj and i was accepted, but i'm from Europe, that's easier. So i was very lucky
As you can see there's people everyday circumbulating so yes, many muslims go there.
They are even building new hotels next to the Kaaba and they added the little thing white for people who circumbulate. It's new, I guess that's because there's too much people but it wasn't there some months ago or when i went.
Treks
Well-Known Member
Wow Pastek congrats as getting in! Have you been yet or is it coming up?
I found this tumblr page called Side Entrance specifically about ladies prayer spaces in Mosques around the world. There are some really pretty ones, like the one at the Muslim Community of Knoxville which has just been renovated. Side Entrance Side Entrance: Photo
I'm not sure what I was expecting to see inside a Mosque. I'm still not sure if I'm getting the whole picture. Is there a point of focus? In Christian church there's usually an altar, in Gurdwara there's the Guru Sahib, does a Mosque have a focal point?
Apologies for all the questions about mosques.
I found this tumblr page called Side Entrance specifically about ladies prayer spaces in Mosques around the world. There are some really pretty ones, like the one at the Muslim Community of Knoxville which has just been renovated. Side Entrance Side Entrance: Photo
I'm not sure what I was expecting to see inside a Mosque. I'm still not sure if I'm getting the whole picture. Is there a point of focus? In Christian church there's usually an altar, in Gurdwara there's the Guru Sahib, does a Mosque have a focal point?
Apologies for all the questions about mosques.
Is there a difference between a masjed and a mosque?
Someone please explain the foot washing area for me as well.
Someone please explain the foot washing area for me as well.
Pastek
Sunni muslim
Thanks, Treks
I've been in 2011 and i stayed 3 weeks : 2 in Mecca 1 in Medina
It depends if it's a big mosque, if people have the money to do something beautiful etc
In some mosques the women are behind the men. In Masjed el Haram (mosque of the Kaaba) sometimes we were mixed. It's the exeption, because it's too big.
Here a mosque in Istanbul. But they have their own style (Ottoman).
Yes we also have an altar but it's only used for the friday's sermon.
The direction is the the Kaaba.
I don't know enought your religion, i've seen it's the name of your Book. Does that mean you need it for the prayer ?
No problem, you don't have to apologize
Masjed or Jama' means mosque and it's the same.
Masjed comes from the verb 'sajada"= to kneel down
So masjad is the place where we kneel down
Jama' comes from the verb " Jama'a" = to gather/to collect"
So it's the place were we are together
We use "Masjed el Haram" (the Holy mosque)for the mosque of Mecca.
dynavert2012
Active Member
yeah, there's a focal point in the masjed, for example during the friday prayer's lecture, it would be the imam minber "platform" where the Imam stands on it while all the people sitting down listening to the lecture as in the link below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkj9GN5EIo4
but women can't see the Imam except if there's a camera in the place they are praying at
in normal prayers there's also a focal point which is mehrab "Niche" it's where the imam directed his body and this niche is directed to kaaba
[youtube]xGa_WtWNj4A[/youtube]
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DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on you.
All mosques (masaajid; plural of masjid) faces Kaaba.
Salaat / Prayer is lead by Imam.
Imam stands in Mehrab. It is just an extended place. However if mehrab is not there, Imam still can lead prayers. Faithul can make lines behind him.
Friday Prayer is called Jumua Salaat, in it, Imam reads sermon / lecture and then lead the Prayer. [details were given above]
Photo: https://www.alislam.org/gallery2/v/mosques/baitulfutuh/baitulfutuh6/aar.jpg.html
Faithful can read Holy Quran inside the mosque but do not face it.
Focal point (of remembrance by tongue, heart, mind and actions) is Allah. Physical direction is toward Kaaba for the sake as Allah has called it His House symbolically; Allah is everywhere.
If for some reason building of mosque / masjid is not available, believers can pray at any clean and quite place facing toward Kaaba. The whole earth is made mosque and pure for me, the Holy Prophet peace and blessings of Allah be on him, said.
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