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What does the Bible say about Cannabis?

james bond

Well-Known Member
I would not expect the Bible saying anything about substances that were not present at the geographical location and at the time of its authors.

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- viole

Where do you get this? So Greeks and Romans didn't know anything about weed (see above)?
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
The Bible does say that there are trees with leaves "for the healing of nations". (Revelation 22:1,2)

The medicinal properties of the cannabis plant have been known and used for thousands of years. There is a genus of the plant on every continent. The reason why it was demonized for so many decades in modern times was because of the abuse of the recreational, high THC genus of the plant that was seen as a gateway drug to other harder drugs....it was also because big pharma had artificially produced drugs to sell and low THC medicinal cannabis would have replaced a lot of them for so many ailments.

Lumping all geneses of the plant together was unfair, as it was like lumping non-alcoholic wine in with hard spirits. There is no reason to forbid the medicinal genus when there is nowhere near the health damaging side effects of prescription drugs which are perfectly legal. Alcohol and tobacco abuse cause way more problems than medicinal cannabis ever could, yet both are perfectly legal. This makes absolutely no sense.

We live in a very corrupt world, ruled by the almighty $....that allows recreational cannabis to be freely available to anyone who wants it, (in spite of it being illegal in most places) but the medicinal kind is kept from those who could really benefit from it.

Watching loved ones suffer, when you know it would help them is so incredibly frustrating!
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Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth

Some hippie chick once attempted to indoctrinate me into her religion by enlightening me to her holy trinity of "Mary the mother, Mary the lover, and Mary the plant" lol




 

rosends

Well-Known Member
You just posted the Wikipedia article which cites Dr Sula Benet's studies; which is why then posted the additional Jewish scholar, who has come to similar conclusions. ;)
Simply pointing to someone who "drew conclusions based on cognates" is not proof. As I said, the Hebrew is actually "kanei vosem" and it does not match, etymologically, with cannabis. If I pointed to significantly more Jewish scholars who do not "come to that conclusion" (and base their conclusions on thousands of more years of actual study than someone pointing to something based on a linguistic point) would you see that as proof?

For a "link" I am looking for either the historical/etymological link (other than a similarity of sound) or a link to actual research and not pointing out similarity. If you read the wiki article, you will notice that the "suggestion" (wiki's word) for Benet's theory isn't persuasive and it provides all source of proof to the otherwise (not the least of which is the talmudic word for hemp which is not kanei vosem any more than it is kinman besem -- cinnamon).
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
would you see that as proof?
No i wouldn't on its own; yet with further investigation there are studies into ancient cultures who all had similar practices which used cannabis, the only difference is that globally we've seem to have misplaced a plants definition...

So based on all the evidence, it suggests the anointing oil, and ceremonies were done with cannabis.

For me personally, i knew since about 13 years old, as could remember it being in our text; even went to the county library at that age to study the effects, and if there were any religious references understood globally.

A rabbi has said it is kosher for medical use, and there are lots of other cases of investigating the historical information. :innocent:
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
No i wouldn't on its own; yet with further investigation there are studies into ancient cultures who all had similar practices which used cannabis, the only difference is that globally we've seem to have misplaced a plants definition...
So there are other cultures. And this, to you over rides the actual definitions that Jews have used for over 2000 years. Got it.
So based on all the evidence, it suggests the anointing oil, and ceremonies were done with cannabis.
The evidence "suggests" something? No, the actual linguistic and historical evidence demonstrates the exact opposite. Go read the talmud, tractate Keritut. It discusses the spices. This is nothing new.
For me personally, i knew since about 13 years old, as could remember it being in our text; even went to the county library at that age to study the effects, and if there were any religious references understood globally.
So when you were 13, and hadn't studied anything, you still "knew." It must be nice to have such certainty without having learned. Then you went to study the effects. Yeah...that should explain a 2000 year old text for you.
A rabbi has said it is kosher for medical use, and there are lots of other cases of investigating the historical information. :innocent:
Khat and kudzu are kosher for medical use. And you know that one of the spices was "kidah." I guess that's conclusive...the text was referring to one of them and not cassia.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
And this, to you over rides the actual definitions that Jews have used for over 2000 years.
We've forgotten how to pronounce the name of our God, anything is possible.
It must be nice to have such certainty without having learned.
Actually the opposite, i remembered it was in the Bible; yet on spending a day researching in the library, didn't find anything on it....

Thus gave up the ideas for years, until getting the internet, and then finding a wealth of information online about it. :)

http://www.timesofisrael.com/getting-baked-on-passover-not-just-for-matzah-rabbi-rules/
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
We've forgotten how to pronounce the name of our God, anything is possible.
If you truly understood this issue, you wouldn't have said this. Meanwhile, go ask a Yemmenite Jew if it is true.
Actually the opposite, i remembered it was in the Bible; yet on spending a day researching in the library, didn't find anything on it....

Thus gave up the ideas for years, until getting the internet, and then finding a wealth of information online about it. :)
So you remembered something but were unable to find it. Then you found the internet where people can say anything and that convinced you. Got it.
Do you have any idea idea why this is irrelevant to the discussion at hand?
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
I don't understand why does the bible need to specifically mention cannabis ? All plants are for humans to use. Right?
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
Good answer but not to my question. Why is it important?

To the Christians, the stewards of the Bible are saying that because Jesus said to follow the law that is #1. I agree with this in general. Now, the law has changed, at least where I live, so this argument does not apply anymore.

Then, they go the health card. To that, I agree that minors should not be exposed to cannabis. See #8 in this thread.
 
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