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What does the justice of God means?

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Humanity uncivilised ? , is political blackmail , and war and all kinds
I care not for your definition , open your eyes
Oright you think humanity is civilized , well maybe in your street you are the minority

You aren't able to make everything black and white. These things happen according to God's determination.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
You aren't able to make everything black and white. These things happen according to God's determination.
Eh God will not change his mind on the
Thou shalt not murder clause
Justice is dealing with crimes or other wrong s in a way that satifys Gods laws .
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Justice is a balanced scale , look at its symbol

The Father keeps all things in balance according to Himself. And for this reason ironically, you are able to believe that you determine things; even the weight of things, and that you are free.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Eh God will not change his mind on the
Thou shalt not murder clause
Justice is dealing with crimes or other wrong s in a way that satifys Gods laws .

God's will is not circumvented. The babes believe that God's will is challenged; that the Father is challenged, and overcome. The Son of Man is greater than the Men of God before him, because they are trees concerning the knowledge of good and evil. The fruit of the tree is according to the progression of the Truth, the Way, and the Life of God. There is none beside Him.

God is making it so the lambs- the pacifists- inherit the Earth. But Cain is raised perpetually in the Earth, until he repents. Jesus went to paradise: the Earth taken away into Heaven, where the Tree of Life resides. And before Jesus did this, he knew that God requires forgiveness, so that all are indeed reborn in their times approaching the Father; the Ancient of Days, as they perceive age.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
God's will is not circumvented. The babes believe that God's will is challenged; that the Father is challenged, and overcome. The Son of Man is greater than the Men of God before him, because they are trees concerning the knowledge of good and evil. The fruit of tree is according to the progression of the Truth, the Way, and the Life of God. There is none beside Him.

God is making it so the lambs (pacifists) inherit the Earth. But Cain is raised perpetually in the Earth, until he repents. Jesus went to paradise: the Earth taken away into Heaven, where the Tree of Life resides. And before Jesus did this, he knew that God requires forgiveness, so that all are indeed reborn in their times approaching the Father; the Ancient of Days, as they perceive age.
Who told you this ?
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
The Father keeps all things in balance according to Himself. And for this reason ironically, you are able to believe that you determine things; even the weight of things, and that you are free.
Iesus Nazarenuus
in lumine tuo videbimus lumen
in nomine domini in manus tuas commendo spiritum meum
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Hello. This my first post. Please accept my prior apology if you found any misbehavior in my post.

I think everyone at least once has thought what if they would be someone else. I do not want to make a list of examples, but I believe even when we are satisfied of ourselves, we think about it because all of our life could be dramatically different from what is it now.
These sort of things have developed an important question for me: how the meaning of justice can be defined? I think the justice means all preliminary conditions should be the same for all humans. However, it can be obviously seen it differs from person to person. I, myself, suppose if one claims the God is just, the meaning of justice should be interpreted in this way, as I defined it above.
Does justice differ from equality? Do you agree with me there is no justice in the ego of the world? If there is, it cannot be the same as I have defined it. Is your definition of justice is just?

Thanks.
I think we have lived before this life and will live after this and we can't see the big picture and are not capable from our perspective of judging 'justice'. I think 'justice' prevails but can not be understood from a short distance.
 

JohnJusticeSeak

New Member
I think we have lived before this life and will live after this and we can't see the big picture and are not capable from our perspective of judging 'justice'. I think 'justice' prevails but can not be understood from a short distance.
Thanks. It's a really fair and beautiful idea. I like it. However, I think something we can be sure about it is we cannot be sure about anything.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Thanks. It's a really fair and beautiful idea.
Thanks.
I like it. However, I think something we can be sure about it is we cannot be sure about anything.
I do feel quite certain myself, from what I have studied on many paranormal subjects (and from the teachings of eastern spiritual masters that dovetail with what I have studied).
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Yes. I agree with you but I was questioning about the meaning of justice in religious point of view. Thus, what is balance? How can you define balance and normal behaviors?
We all know the difference no ?
In religious points of view , divine right influences religion so is the duty of monarch to deliver justice by the hand of God.? Hit and miss early days but now is 2016 everyone more civilized.
Guess it all started in religion with the 10 commandments as premise ?
Murder is unbalanced , can argue to make a premise on which all agree , whether murder wrong or right .however 2016 is as wrong as 2000 BC to murder .
So is wrong to murder simple premise and God agrees )
Can cover every aspect of human interaction with the world ,in this manner.
I guess balanced normal behaviour should , limit or create the least victims ?
 

RamaRaksha

*banned*
You are making this way too complicated and giving religion too much credit - these were born in medieval times when Kings ruled - that is the world they knew - they made God in the image of the local king - so God's "justice" was the the King's "Justice" - basically
1. Master is always right
2. If master is wrong, see 1 above
Rest is religious brainwashing of believers madly insisting that their God dispenses justice when all it is is a King making a ruling
 

JohnJusticeSeak

New Member
We all know the difference no ?
In religious points of view , divine right influences religion so is the duty of monarch to deliver justice by the hand of God.? Hit and miss early days but now is 2016 everyone more civilized.
Guess it all started in religion with the 10 commandments as premise ?
Murder is unbalanced , can argue to make a premise on which all agree , whether murder wrong or right .however 2016 is as wrong as 2000 BC to murder .
So is wrong to murder simple premise and God agrees )
Can cover every aspect of human interaction with the world ,in this manner.
I guess balanced normal behaviour should , limit or create the least victims ?
I think there is no absolute good and bad guidance in our ego or in the world's ego. So, why do you say normal behavior limits victims? Is it just a definition? All I wanted to say was this our lives differ dramatically BECAUSE our starting points differ and I think it is not justice.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
I think there is no absolute good and bad guidance in our ego or in the world's ego. So, why do you say normal behavior limits victims? Is it just a definition? All I wanted to say was this our lives differ dramatically BECAUSE our starting points differ and I think it is not justice.

In this respect , yes we dealt a hand at the start of the game , agreed it appears there is no justice in this respect.
I have nice parents I was real lucky here, not as healthy as they used to be.
Earth was a blank canvas , humanity , society preoccupied it is those that forget about the ones that maybe are not quite as fortunate as ourselves , yes I could do more myself , but I do help when I can several charities , even I able bodied will be judged what I did with it .
If there is a God and it is such , I'm sure he would look and set different requirement depending on the hand you received at the start of the Game . Anything else would not be justice .?
I think everyone judged by God on merit at a personal level , if you had a winning hand and didn't do the right thing one would be judged on that also imho
 
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