What godless means

[Estro Felino]

I need to define what godless means first :
godless means to believe in nothing. To believe life is meaningless. That this life is just pleasure, instinct, and that the fittest shall prevail.
Many atheists believe in something, which can be wisdom, art, creativity, fairness, cooperation, knowledge, justice, peace.
They pursue these things, and their life is filled with meaning.

But godlessness is the rejection of all the positive values theists associate with deities. And trust me, there are theists who are godless, because they think religion is just a cultural figment.

So godless doesn't mean necessarily atheist.

 

[Soandso]

Huh. If the word "meaningless" already exists, why do we need to insert god into it? What are some examples of someone who is leading a godless/meaningless life? Is there a society we can point to that would exhibit this behavior as a whole?

 

[ChristineM]

godless means to believe in nothing

Nope godless means to not have a god, nothing more, nothing less

To believe life is meaningless.

Bullpoop

That this life is just pleasure, instinct, and that the fittest shall prevail.

Again bullpoop

Many atheists believe in something

Ya don't say

But godlessness is the rejection of all the positive values theists associate with deities.

What positive values?
What about the negative values?

So godless doesn't mean necessarily atheist.

Actually it does by definition

 

[Estro Felino]

Nope godless means to not have a god, nothing more, nothing less




Bullpoop



Again bullpoop



Ya don't say



What positive values?
What about the negative values?



Actually it does by definition

@Soandso

Read this
The godless person is not a person who has no god, for everyone has gods, including the atheist. A god is simply that which a person elevates to the position of greatest importance and significance. For some people this is the One True God or some pagan god, and for others it may be family, wealth, prestige, scientific materialism, or personal autonomy. Everyone has gods, even the godless, but only believers in Christ know and revere the One True God as He has revealed Himself in Scripture—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Source What does it mean to be godless? | GotQuestions.org

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

To believe life is meaningless.

That's actually nihilism.

That this life is just pleasure, instinct, and that the fittest shall prevail.

Sounds more like Social Darwinism - which I only believe in in a very limited Capitalist system sense, and also, is a hotly contested theory (even among atheists)

Many atheists believe in something, which can be wisdom, art, creativity, fairness, cooperation, knowledge, justice, peace.

But they don't tend to Godify it, either.

They pursue these things, and their life is filled with meaning.

Depends. Meaning is more of a philosophical thing (in my opinion).

So godless doesn't mean necessarily atheist.

Sounds a bit confusing.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

@Soandso

Read this
The godless person is not a person who has no god, for everyone has gods, including the atheist. A god is simply that which a person elevates to the position of greatest importance and significance. For some people this is the One True God or some pagan god, and for others it may be family, wealth, prestige, scientific materialism, or personal autonomy. Everyone has gods, even the godless, but only believers in Christ know and revere the One True God as He has revealed Himself in Scripture—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Source What does it mean to be godless? | GotQuestions.org

The description is pretty inaccurate.

 

[ChristineM]

for everyone has gods

Bullpoop based on ignorance

 

[danieldemol]

I need to define what godless means first :
godless means to believe in nothing. To believe life is meaningless. That this life is just pleasure, instinct, and that the fittest shall prevail.
Many atheists believe in something, which can be wisdom, art, creativity, fairness, cooperation, knowledge, justice, peace.
They pursue these things, and their life is filled with meaning.

But godlessness is the rejection of all the positive values theists associate with deities. And trust me, there are theists who are godless, because they think religion is just a cultural figment.

So godless doesn't mean necessarily atheist.

If I told you I'm going to redefine theism as nihilism and social Darwinism wouldn't you suspect I was attempting to undermine the character of theism by false attribution of characteristics it doesn't necessarily have?

Why does it change because the subject of the character attack is godlessness?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

And trust me, there are theists who are godless, because they think religion is just a cultural figment.

I've encountered such people in Hinduism to some certain extent. They're actually called Hindu atheists, I think.

I'll actually agree with you that in a Christian sense, it might get confusing, as using a term like "Christian atheist" might confuse a bunch of people.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I need to define what godless means first :
godless means to believe in nothing. To believe life is meaningless. That this life is just pleasure, instinct, and that the fittest shall prevail.
Many atheists believe in something, which can be wisdom, art, creativity, fairness, cooperation, knowledge, justice, peace.
They pursue these things, and their life is filled with meaning.

But godlessness is the rejection of all the positive values theists associate with deities. And trust me, there are theists who are godless, because they think religion is just a cultural figment.

So godless doesn't mean necessarily atheist.

@Soandso

Read this
The godless person is not a person who has no god, for everyone has gods, including the atheist. A god is simply that which a person elevates to the position of greatest importance and significance. For some people this is the One True God or some pagan god, and for others it may be family, wealth, prestige, scientific materialism, or personal autonomy. Everyone has gods, even the godless, but only believers in Christ know and revere the One True God as He has revealed Himself in Scripture—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Source What does it mean to be godless? | GotQuestions.org

In this thread, you both devalue the term "god" for theists and force the term "god" down atheists' throats. I see nothing productive in defining "godless" is such a fashion.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I've encountered such people in Hinduism to some certain extent. They're actually called Hindu atheists, I think.

I'll actually agree with you that in a Christian sense, it might get confusing, as using a term like "Christian atheist" might confuse a bunch of people.

The term I'm actually looking for here, would be "Cultural Christian":

Cultural Christians - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Viker]

godless means to believe in nothing. To believe life is meaningless. That this life is just pleasure, instinct, and that the fittest shall prevail

That seems more like nihilism and capitalism.

Godless just means without a god or gods.

American society/culture is not godless and yet fits perfectly with your definition.

 

[Estro Felino]

In this thread, you both devalue the term "god" for theists and force the term "god" down atheists' throats. I see nothing productive in defining "godless" is such a fashion.

What does it mean to be godless? | GotQuestions.org

What does it mean to be godless? What does the Bible say about people who are, or at least claim to be, godless?

www.gotquestions.org

Read this.

 

[SalixIncendium]

What does it mean to be godless? | GotQuestions.org

What does it mean to be godless? What does the Bible say about people who are, or at least claim to be, godless?

www.gotquestions.org

Read this.

And if there was a comment section, I would say the something to whoever authored that.

Furthermore, the article is wrought with unfounded conclusions.

 

[Estro Felino]

In this thread, you both devalue the term "god" for theists and force the term "god" down atheists' throats. I see nothing productive in defining "godless" is such a fashion.

It's not my fault. It's theists' fault, it's them who devalue it.
In politics there are lots of theists who proclaim themselves believers of God, and then they lie, cheat, defraud the American people.
That's what godlessness is.
You can believe in the existence of a God, but your life can be completely devoid of Godliness.
Does that make sense?

 

[Viker]

What does it mean to be godless? | GotQuestions.org

What does it mean to be godless? What does the Bible say about people who are, or at least claim to be, godless?

www.gotquestions.org

Read this.

"The godless person is not a person who has no god, for everyone has gods, including the atheist"

Nonsense.

 

[SalixIncendium]

It's not my fault. It's theists' fault, it's them who devalue it.
In politics there are lots of theists who proclaim themselves believers of God, and then they lie, cheat, defraud the American people.
That's what godlessness is.
You can believe in the existence of a God, but your life can be completely devoid of Godliness.
Does that make sense?

Yes. But in this context, there is no correlation to atheism.

This just describes people who believe in God, but choose to serve the ego instead.

 

[Viker]

It's not my fault. It's theists' fault, it's them who devalue it.
In politics there are lots of theists who proclaim themselves believers of God, and then they lie, cheat, defraud the American people.
That's what godlessness is.
You can believe in the existence of a God, but your life can be completely devoid of Godliness.
Does that make sense?

But guess what........

They're not godless.

 

[Viker]

I see where this is going. Godless is being used to mean without the One True God. Which makes the use of the term godless nonsensical.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes. But in this context, there is no correlation to atheism.

This just describes people who believe in God, but choose to serve the ego instead.

I did underline many times atheism is not godlessness.