What if Philosophy or Science was law?

[Sha'irullah]

What if a Philosophiocracy or Scientiacracy existed

Can you imagine the absurdity of it?
What if a society abode by philosophical position on matters. Make logical fallacies a crime against reason and sentenced people to "correctional facilities" where philosophical ethics and principles were enforced.

Can you imagine a society where improper reasoning is punishable. To be punished under the law of Kantian ethics.

Now imagine a scientific based society. Where disbelief in the Big Bang or Evolution is unacceptable. A society where the weaker of a species could face extermination or genetics defects warrant capital punishment.

For some reason this idea seems amusing. Can anybody imagine some actions that would be deemed criminal in such societies?

 

[Viker]

I'm all for a technocratic republic. Which would cover much of that .

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The first one is stupid.

The second one is evil.

 

[Sha'irullah]

The first one is stupid.

The second one is evil.

That is what makes them awesome

Also if you went a little further with your statements I could have arrested you for an informal fallacy. Better watch yourself bro

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That is what makes them awesome

Also if you went a little further with your statements I could have arrested you for an informal fallacy. Better watch yourself bro

I don't find genocide to be "awesome".

 

[Sha'irullah]

I don't find genocide to be "awesome".

I am referring to the stupidity of actually desiring such a government not the act of it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I am referring to the stupidity of actually desiring such a government not the act of it.

Ah. In that case, I agree.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Ah. In that case, I agree.

This is where the irony kicks in. I am one of them (just kidding)

 

[Wirey]

If arrested in the "Philosophiocracy" I would merely state "I think I am innocent, therefore I am."

 

[Viker]

If arrested in the "Philosophiocracy" I would merely state "I think I am innocent, therefore I am."

This is a survivor.

 

[Wirey]

This is a survivor.

I actually used to sing with Survivor! Until security dragged me off the stage!

 

[Valjean]

Why would a philosophical society enforce 'right thinking', and who would decide which philosophical position was orthodox? It would be like criminalizing a preference for the color blue.
Even in matters demonstrably false, criminalizing belief in them would be like criminalizing maths errors.

As for scientific orthodoxy, science is all about skepticism. Science never proves anything -- it just accumulates evidence. Science is always open to new interpretations as new facts come to light.
If Newtonian physics had been compulsory, Einstein would have been jailed. Were relativity orthodox, quantum mechanics would be heretical.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Why would a philosophical society enforce 'right thinking', and who would decide which philosophical position was orthodox? It would be like criminalizing a preference for the color blue.
Even in matters demonstrably false, criminalizing belief in them would be like criminalizing maths errors.

As for scientific orthodoxy, science is all about skepticism. Science never proves anything -- it just accumulates evidence. Science is always open to new interpretations as new facts come to light.
If Newtonian physics had been compulsory, Einstein would have been jailed. Were relativity orthodox, quantum mechanics would be heretical.

This is what makes it absurd. I am releasing a bit of my inner Camus at this point I guess.
Also I am not referring to scientific praxis but scientific knowledge. A society where scientific knowledge is the basis for all actions and denial of scientific knowledge in against the society's interest. Much like an Islamic state and a person's denial of the state religion.

 

[LuisDantas]

Law is way over-rated. Even with perfect inspiration and under utopical circunstances it can't really help any society very much. It is simply too crude and too poor a tool to do much good.

 

[Sapiens]

1. I do not think that refers Plato's republic.

2. The penalty would not be death, it would be reduced access to the gene pool of succeeding generations.

 

[Sha'irullah]

1. I do not think that refers Plato's republic.

2. The penalty would not be death, it would be reduced access to the gene pool of succeeding generations.

I prefer castration

 

[Gjallarhorn]

If science was law nothing would change. It already is law. Unless you mean it would become moral law, in which case it would be a fallacy. "Mantises kill each other after sex, therefore so should you!"

Philosophy as law would be ambiguous, seeing as philosophy rarely has solid answers for anything.

 

[Sha'irullah]

If science was law nothing would change. It already is law. Unless you mean it would become moral law, in which case it would be a fallacy. "Mantises kill each other after sex, therefore so should you!"

Philosophy as law would be ambiguous, seeing as philosophy rarely has solid answers for anything.

I am referring to specific ethical concepts of Philosophy being enforced along with philosophical thinking.

And by science I mean scientific thinking and acceptance. Nobody could reject a scientific principle without good reason.

I am by no means referring that science would be applied as a moral system but that the moral system will be based upon scientific research. More like thought control

 

[Brickjectivity]

We'd have two giant factions. One for science and one for philosophy. The scientists would fight with dirty rotten pranks using their scientific knowledge. The philosophers would strike back with devious cereal box covers and killer slogans.

 

[Sha'irullah]

We'd have two giant factions. One for science and one for philosophy. The scientists would fight with dirty rotten pranks using their scientific knowledge. The philosophers would strike back with devious cereal box covers and killer slogans.

Philosophers would say to each other: "I think, therefore you sum losers"