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What if you could see and communicate with the deceased?

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Aha. That's interesting. So now I have an explanation, from my own personal experience, of how these ideas may arise.

My maternal great-grandfather was very sick and he died when I was 12 years old, and I saw him shortly after he died. He died at home in his bed, surrounded by loved ones. At the time of his death, I staying with my paternal grandparents in the next town over. I woke up and he was standing in front of my bed, smiling at me. I got out of bed and went into the living room to tell my grandparents that my great-grandfather had passed away. They stared at me, not knowing what to say at first. My grandmother then told me that I had been dreaming and to go back to bed. The phone rang about fifteen minutes later, and my grandmother answered. I could hear my aunt's voice on the phone because she talks very loudly. I heard her tell my grandmother that my great-grandfather had passed away about fifteen minutes ago. She asked my grandmother to tell me about his passing in the morning. The bedroom I was in was right off of the living room. I peeked through the crack in the door and I saw the look of shock on both of my grandparents' faces. My grandmother whispered to my grandfather, "How did [my name] know that he passed away when she wasn't there?" My grandfather just shook his head and whispered back, "I don't know." I never heard either one mention what happened again. That's not the last time I knew when one of my grandparents or another relative had passed away, and I wasn't there at the time of their passing. I also knew when my husband's grandparents had passed away. I told my husband at the time, but I didn't tell anyone else in his family.
 
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syo

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Tesla wanted to communicate with the dead, he made a phone.

What a pity, not a good idea. :(
 

Debater Slayer

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This. I would be too suspicious of my senses if I saw the deceased or heard them, so seeking professional help would be my first course of action.

In addition to the above, one thing I might wonder about if medical professionals couldn't give me a diagnosis and treatment (in case I needed to be treated) would be whether the human brain had some currently unknown mechanisms through which we could have such experiences. There's so much we don't know about the brain, and given its complexity, I would probably think of at least a dozen possible explanations for what I experienced before concluding that I was really communicating with the deceased.

That said, even if some of us could see and talk to the deceased, I think that would simply be yet another part of nature that we didn't fully understand yet (if ever). By definition, I think anything that occurs in this world is natural, so that would just be another part of the natural world even if it involved unseen entities.
 

Link

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Salam

Dead (good and bad) are alive on earth, and evil despite unseen Angelic punishment, still think they are good. But the good are at higher level, but same way, blindness in this world happens to good and evil, same with the dead.

I don't want to go too much in my experience with dead but I do believe they are alive. The earth is a home for dead and alive.

Jinn are one thing, and human spirits alive are another.

Mediums like yourself can access one or both.

The Quran list abilities if any book can give it would be this recitation and speaking to dead is one of them.
It's a good ability and you should thank God for it.

Same with if you can travel the earth (astral projection), it's one of the abilities Quran lists.

The hadiths about the verse interpret it that the Quran can give this ability to any human.

But this doesn't mean people who don't believe in the Quran cannot have this ability either.

You should thank God for this gift and use it wisely.
 

Link

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Sahih International: And if there was any qur'an by which the mountains would be removed or the earth would be broken apart or the dead would be made to speak, [it would be this Qur'an], but to Allah belongs the affair entirely. Then have those who believed not accepted that had Allah willed, He would have guided the people, all of them? And those who disbelieve do not cease to be struck, for what they have done, by calamity - or it will descend near their home - until there comes the promise of Allah. Indeed, Allah does not fail in [His] promise.

Pickthall: Had it been possible for a Lecture to cause the mountains to move, or the earth to be torn asunder, or the dead to speak, (this Qur'an would have done so). Nay, but Allah's is the whole command. Do not those who believe know that, had Allah willed, He could have guided all mankind? As for those who disbelieve, disaster ceaseth not to strike them because of what they do, or it dwelleth near their home until the threat of Allah come to pass. Lo! Allah faileth not to keep the tryst.

Yusuf Ali: If there were a Qur'an with which mountains were moved, or the earth were cloven asunder, or the dead were made to speak, (this would be the one!) But, truly, the command is with Allah in all things! Do not the Believers know, that, had Allah (so) willed, He could have guided all mankind (to the right)? But the Unbelievers,- never will disaster cease to seize them for their (ill) deeds, or to settle close to their homes, until the promise of Allah come to pass, for, verily, Allah will not fail in His promise.

Shakir: And even if there were a Quran with which the mountains were made to pass away, or the earth were travelled over with it, or the dead were made to speak thereby; nay! the commandment is wholly Allah's, Have not yet those who believe known that if Allah please He would certainly guide all the people? And (as for) those who disbelieve, there will not cease to afflict them because of what they do a repelling calamity, or it will alight close by their abodes, until the promise of Allah comes about; surely Allah will not fail in (His) promise.

Muhammad Sarwar: Even if the Quran would make mountains move, cut the earth into pieces and make the dead able to speak, (the unbelievers still would not believe). All affairs are in the hands of God. Do the believers still hope that they will believe? Had God wanted he could have guided the whole of mankind to the right path. The unbelievers will always suffer afflictions that result from their deeds or the affliction which occur near their homes, until God's promise of punishing them will be fulfilled. God does not disregard His promise.

Mohsin Khan: And if there had been a Quran with which mountains could be moved (from their places), or the earth could be cloven asunder, or the dead could be made to speak (it would not have been other than this Quran). But the decision of all things is certainly with Allah. Have not then those who believe yet known that had Allah willed, He could have guided all mankind? And a disaster will not cease to strike those who disbelieve because of their (evil) deeds or it (i.e. the disaster) settle close to their homes, until the Promise of Allah comes to pass. Certainly, Allah does not fail in His Promise.

Arberry: If only a Koran whereby the mountains were set in motion, or the earth were cleft, or the dead were spoken to -- nay, but God's is the affair altogether. Did not the believers know that, if God had willed, He would have guided men all together? And still the unbelievers are smitten by a shattering for what they wrought, or it alights nigh their habitation, until God's promise comes; and God will not fail the tryst.



Per hadiths (I remember some in Al-Kafi for example), this to be read in a way, that is saying Quran can give all these abilities to any human.

You are blessed with this ability without Quran, but Quran can give this ability among many others, through itself per hadiths about this aya.
 

Link

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OP - You are blessed, but you should know envious eyes and bad people (Sorcerers and evil Jinn) might want to limit your ability and can even make it go away.

This a blessed ability and you should hold it with strength. In my view, you should not open threads so that ignorant people belittle your abilities and make you question it or your experience to the dead.
 

sun rise

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I just remembered a couple of incidents that happened to me. These were not communication with the dead as in having a chat but they were experiences of those not in a physical body.

One was after one of our dogs died. She was in the room with me for a few moments. We stared at each other and then she moved off. That could easily be dismissed as wishful thinking but had a quality of reality about it.

The second was truly meaningful to me. It happened when I was asleep. A friend from another continent that I thought was healthy "zoomed" past me saying "I go to God". It was only days later that I learned she had died the night I had the "dream".

Of course I don't expect materialists to change their mind based on this, but such things are real to me.
 

Link

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Of course I don't expect materialists to change their mind based on this, but such things are real to me.

Some materialists are lost in confusion of intellectuals because of education system just heightens a certain way of thinking.

Not all of them don't want this to be true and not all should be given up on.

That said I think this thread is a good topic in this regard. Why don't atheist go to mediums and test them. I think they would discover these mediums have a lot of evidence they rely on for themselves, but also know how to prove to others, they aren't just hallucinating.

Why don't you guys test them. I guarantee, very little out there are just liars.
 

Link

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It's blessed and great favor so hold on to it. Don't let people who have this ability make you question it nor those who don't. There will exist from both who try to take away the favor.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
OP - You are blessed, but you should know envious eyes and bad people (Sorcerers and evil Jinn) might want to limit your ability and can even make it go away.

This a blessed ability and you should hold it with strength. In my view, you should not open threads so that ignorant people belittle your abilities and make you question it or your experience to the dead.

It's blessed and great favor so hold on to it. Don't let people who have this ability make you question it nor those who don't. There will exist from both who try to take away the favor.

Thanks for your replies and for your advice, Link. I truly appreciate it. I'm not worried about skeptics questioning my abilities, and I'll inform the staff of anyone who belittles me. To be honest, skeptics don't cause me to question whether I can interact with spirits.

The reason why I post on RF about my abilities and start threads about my investigations is so that I can give other people who don't have these abilities the opportunity to experience what I see. So, when I investigate a new location, I can't wait to post about it.

As a matter of fact, RF has given me a rare opportunity to talk about my abilities and my experiences with the paranormal. I've never been on another forum like it or even on Facebook (or another social media site) where I felt like I could talk about these topics freely and not be bombarded with hateful responses that viciously attack my character or question my sanity. I'm very grateful to RF.
 
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Link

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Thanks for your replies and for your advice, Link. I truly appreciate it. I'm not worried about skeptics questioning my abilities, and I'll inform the staff of anyone who belittles me. To be honest, skeptics don't cause me to question what I can do with my abilities. The reason why I post on RF about my abilities and start new threads about my paranormal investigations is so that I can give other people who don't have my abilities the opportunity to see what I see.

As a matter of fact, RF has given me a rare opportunity to talk about my abilities and my experiences with the paranormal. I've never been on another forum like it or even on Facebook (or another social media site) where I felt like I could talk about these topics freely and not be bombarded with hateful responses that viciously attack my character or question my sanity. I'm very grateful to RF.

Salam

But you can fend off ignorant sure. But what about evil sorcerers who don't want you having this ability? They know how to trick people out of it and attack you during that time with bad energy and bad thoughts and they done it to many because they don't like people outside their inner circle society having it?

You should also gain spiritual powers to break evil energy and fend off not only yourself but others during sleep (astral project) and awake (bless the different areas you go to with blessed energy).

This is just a starting point. There are people who this is just a start point and they do a lot of evil and manipulation with their unseen powers. Then there is those who try to unbind all this.

Then there is those who seek help from the exalted sky family (the visited house, the lanterns in the sky) and they connect and use them to help facilitate blessings all over the earth and help people alleviate from bad energy.

What am I saying, don't get settled on this one step. There's a lot more to do and a lot of abilities to gain. Keep going my friend.

And be on guard, ignorant won't know how to make you doubt, that's not what I am worried about. I'm worried about those with tons of abilities unseen and talk to dead as well. Some of them wish you well, others don't.

So tread in a way that is not naïve about this world and it's people.

I'm wishing you the best.
 

Debater Slayer

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I'm sorry to hear that.

Why? To me, ruling out any potentially underlying medical condition is the best and most responsible first step to take. I've met more than one schizophrenic or psychotic person who could only get proper treatment after that step. Unfortunately, prior to that, most of them had been through a lot of unnecessary suffering because their families took them to imams, priests, etc., before a medical professional in order to address the "spirits" they saw during episodes of their psychiatric condition.
 

Link

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Why? To me, ruling out any potentially underlying medical condition is the best and most responsible first step to take. I've met more than one schizophrenic or psychotic person who could only get proper treatment after that step. Unfortunately, prior to that, most of them had been through a lot of unnecessary suffering because their families took them to imams, priests, etc., before a medical professional in order to address the "spirits" they saw during episodes of their psychiatric condition.

Madness has nothing to do with unseen world except that a hardware (brain) going haywire, can, have spirits and magic amplify and make it worse.

Schizophrenia is a brain wire issue.

The constant want to relate it with unseen favor of God (religion) and the medical wiring of the brain done in a way it's too fast and too random and rehearsing same thoughts with no logical way of getting out of them that you can't function and become severely irrational and deluded, is not fair approach by some Western psychologists or psychiatrists.

Some Schizophrenia people are spiritual. Some Atheists. Some religious, some not. Some into this stuff, others into science, aliens... etc...

The same type of variety you have in society (normal), you have with schizophrenia.

Those who go to priests and Imams to fix it, don't recognize the hardware (mind) problem, it's gone haywire, the wiring.

Those who avoid seeking spiritual help and spiritual world, once they get the madness because of opinions of materialistic Psychiatrists, they lose out too.

Take medications to keep hardware intact, but don't avoid spiritual strengths and powers and world.

This is the balanced approached. The favor of God is unrelated to madness.
 

Debater Slayer

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Some materialists are lost in confusion of intellectuals because of education system just heightens a certain way of thinking.

Not all of them don't want this to be true and not all should be given up on.

Personally, I hope there is some peaceful existence awaiting us after death. I don't believe in such, but I would love to be proven wrong either now or after death. Many people don't believe in an afterlife or the paranormal not because we don't it to be true but merely because we see no convincing evidence for any of it.

That said I think this thread is a good topic in this regard. Why don't atheist go to mediums and test them. I think they would discover these mediums have a lot of evidence they rely on for themselves, but also know how to prove to others, they aren't just hallucinating.

Why don't you guys test them. I guarantee, very little out there are just liars.

I believe many self-proclaimed mediums do genuinely believe that they experience the paranormal or spiritual, so I don't consider those liars. It's just that, as I said above, I have no compelling reason to believe what they describe is necessarily paranormal or related to communication with the dead. In my opinion, there are dozens of more likely explanations we can consider and attribute to the human brain or other known natural phenomena before concluding the experiences are related to anything of the sort.

I would welcome the opportunity to witness a self-proclaimed medium at work if they agreed to let me be present during their sessions. I would have to be sure I would be safe and that they weren't a dangerous person, but since most probably wouldn't be, I doubt that would be an issue. I don't have access to such an opportunity where I live, though. My country has a lot more "magicians" and "exorcists" than "mediums."
 

Debater Slayer

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Madness has nothing to do with unseen world except that a hardware (brain) going haywire, can, have spirits and magic amplify and make it worse.

I didn't mention "madness," though, and "madness," "insanity," etc., aren't medical diagnoses or scientific descriptions. They're colloquial and unfortunately common ways of branding people who have specific mental health issues.
 

Link

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I didn't mention "madness," though, and "madness," "insanity," etc., aren't medical diagnoses or scientific descriptions. They're colloquial and unfortunately common ways of branding people who have specific mental health issues.

I prefer it to what I'm called (a person with schizophrenia). I rather call it madness.
 

Link

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That's your prerogative. Regardless of what you call it, I wish you good health.
Thank you. I need both medications and spiritual medications. Need doctor of both kinds, Mohammad (S) my doctor spiritually and my Psychiatrist (medications, amount, some advice psychologically). Where they contradict, I will prefer Quran and Ahlulbayt (a).

And unseen world I believe in.
 
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