What is a Christian

[1robin]

Quite an infantile post

We had someone who voted I'm not Christian... I was asking anyone who doesn't think im Christian to give an explanation why. If that is you than it includes you as well. If not, then I'd like an answer from you anyway on the topic.

Also, stating you won't explain why someone isn't Christian until they deny the obvious is quite pitiful.

I chose your forum name because you were the one who most recently made statements that would indicate you knew what a Christian was.

You have not been the only person here who stated I wasn't Christian, so I was very well aware that maybe you were not the one who voted no.

I just assumed from your choice of words that you knew what a Christian was, so especially wanted to hear the explanation from you. I want to hear the explanation from anyone, but especially from anyone who would vote no.

And as I stated, since you asked me if I was a Christian and gave an incomplete vague answer about being born again, I was especially wanting to hear a further , more complete answer + explanation from you about "Christian " and how to know if one is " born again".

I think Jesus wants you to give a thorough explanation.

Since I was hoping for an explanation from you, because your last explanation was so incomplete and vague, that is why I mentioned you.

You can ask what you want of me once you do as requested by me and what your own honor should be demanding of you. You must simply retract your claims of stating you were not a Christian, and you must stop making false accusation that I am dishonest. Until you do I cannot help but think you petty and undeserving of a serious response. It is not hard to admit what we both know, your resistance to doing so is destroying your credibility as a mature and serious searcher of truth and I will not waste vast amounts of time on you until you do. Stop making additional accusations to distract from your not admitting the mistakes you have made and correct them, only then will I continue a treat your posts as worth spending time on. Others have pointed out your several unjustifiable actions in this thread and I am through ignoring them. You cannot deter me from my position and your wasting both our times by the attempt.

 

[Spiderman]

You can ask what you want of me once you do as requested by me and what your own honor should be demanding of you. You must simply retract your claims of stating you were not a Christian, and you must stop making false accusation that I am dishonest. Until you do I cannot help but think you petty and undeserving of a serious response. It is not hard to admit what we both know, your resistance to doing so is destroying your credibility as a mature and serious searcher of truth and I will not waste vast amounts of time on you until you do. Stop making additional accusations to distract from your not admitting the mistakes you have made and correct them, only then will I continue a treat your posts as worth spending time on. Others have pointed out your several unjustifiable actions in this thread and I am through ignoring them. You cannot deter me from my position and your wasting both our times by the attempt.

If your intention was not dishonesty, then I apologize. However, you have repeatedly said falsehoods about me, and I consider falsehood to be lies in their nature. But if you didn't intend them to be lies, then you were not guilty of the sin of lying.

Therefore, if those conditions were met, then I apologize for accusing you of dishonesty. But since you have repeatedly stated falsehood about me, I don't repent of speaking the truth about that.

And actually, I know my intention. In this thread, I wanted a discussion where everyone who votes no would explain why I'm not a Christian. So, since I know there are people here who don't think I'm Christian , I would like an explanation from the person who voted no, and I'd like an explanation from you whether you voted no or not, about what is a Christian, because you brought up the topic, so it would be foolish for you to not explain what you meant by the question

Jesus wants you to give a thorough explanation

 

[Spiderman]

@1robin
By asking the question "are you a Christian"...you brought this up and should be willing to give your thorough explanation for what a Christian is, that I may answer your question. Since the Bible does not give a sufficient explanation and often has verses that lead people to opposite opinions, it is a discussion that we should be having.

It is clearly a discussion that any good Christian would be more than willing to enter into with confidence in the Holy-Spirit providing them with the wisdom promised in Scripture.

 

[1robin]

If your intention was not dishonesty, then I apologize. However, you have repeatedly said falsehoods about me, and I consider falsehood to be lies in their nature. But if you didn't intend them to be lies, then you were not guilty of the sin of lying.

You rightly apologize but then appear to not be able to stand that you did so and make accusations in the very sentence. It is almost impossible to think an apology is sincere in that circumstance. However I am commanded to be forgiving so I will accept your apology even though it is hard to believe it was sincere, especially because you did not mention dragging me name into another thread which is against forum rules, and for claiming I said something you cannot find a single example of my actually saying it.

Therefore, if those conditions were met, then I apologize for accusing you of dishonesty. But since you have repeatedly stated falsehood about me, I don't repent of speaking the truth about that.

You keep saying I stated a falsehood about you but you fail to provide any evidence. You must show that I attacked you, not that I merely have an opinion about your argumentation which is not an attack against you personally based on a falsehood. It also looks insincere to distract from an apologize by making accusations your self. I would have apologized and in another post made an accusation with actual evidence it actually occurred. To tell the truth I can't remember an apology I have made in a thread which also included distracting accusations. It makes any apology sound like a tactic.

And actually, I know my intention. In this thread, I wanted a discussion where everyone who votes no would explain why I'm not a Christian. So, since I know there are people here who don't think I'm Christian , I would like an explanation from the person who voted no, and I'd like an explanation from you whether you voted no or not, about what is a Christian, because you brought up the topic, so it would be foolish for you to not explain what you meant by the question

I did not accuse you of lying. I said your accusations were incorrect. Which is a mistake and not necessarily a lie. I did suggest your actions of dragging my name into another thread without asking was dishonorable and improper. These things are simple facts and do not need me to know your intentions. I virtually never make accusations based on intentions but simply about what was done.

Jesus wants you to give a thorough explanation

I have seen no reason Jesus ever told you anything, and many reasons to consider what you have said as contradictory to what Christ said.


Now despite your apparently begrudging apology to a single action among at least three incorrect accusations I will accept it and move on to what actually makes a Christian unless you want to prove what your counter accusations. I will not however continue our discussion about the nature of what God allows. That issue has been concluded. So barring more accusations do you want to discuss what actually makes a person a Christian?

 

[1robin]

@1robin
By asking the question "are you a Christian"...you brought this up and should be willing to give your thorough explanation for what a Christian is, that I may answer your question. Since the Bible does not give a sufficient explanation and often has verses that lead people to opposite opinions, it is a discussion that we should be having.

It is clearly a discussion that any good Christian would be more than willing to enter into with confidence in the Holy-Spirit providing them with the wisdom promised in Scripture.

The only reason I did not ignore your dragging my name into another thread without asking is because my Christian duty is to provide what makes a person a Christian. I was unwilling to do so until some issues were settled however. You have half heartedly settled a single generalized mistake you made and so I will let that settle all the mistakes you made. Now if you want to get back to the issue you brought up without all the false accusations then you may take the first shot. However I wish you could quote me correctly in a consistent manner. You seem to do so at times so I don't know why you do so incorrectly at other times but it is only by chance I notice the incorrectly formatted posts.

 

[Spiderman]

The only reason I did not ignore your dragging my name into another thread without asking is because my Christian duty is to provide what makes a person a Christian. I was unwilling to do so until some issues were settled however. You have half heartedly settled a single generalized mistake you made and so I will let that settle all the mistakes you made. Now if you want to get back to the issue you brought up without all the false accusations then you may take the first shot. However I wish you could quote me correctly in a consistent manner. You seem to do so at times so I don't know why you do so incorrectly at other times but it is only by chance I notice the incorrectly formatted posts.

One of your repeated falsehoods was that on another thread you kept saying I contradicted myself and went back and said the opposite of what I previously said.... I absolutely didn't...I said God wants X, y, and z to happen.

it is good because he thinks it's good, whether I like it or not, for I don't get to define "good"...none of my statements contradicted that, yet repeatedly you claimed I was contradicting myself and going back and saying the opposite of what I previously said....which is verifiable falsehood.

One reason I don't always quote you the same, is if you have a sentence from your post that I want to quote, it's easier for me on this phone too just quote it the way I did .

Anyhow, I can't believe how long it's taking you to answer a question about "what is a Christian "....Sheesh!

You ask me if im Christian and what basis I have for stating I'm a Christian ....and day after day I wait for you in vain to answer a simple question about what is required for me to know im Christian, and repeatedly I check my alerts to see if you'd answer the question just to discover you found something unrelated to bicker about , like we're married or something