I think it already is far to complicated......
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What is a Christian?
- Thread starter Truth_Faith13
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Gentoo
The Feisty Penguin
We have had many threads where this question as come up - however I cant find one specifically on this question, so I thought now would be a good time to have one with the debates going on at the moment.
It is quite simple...
In your own view - what is your definition of a Christian, what must a person belief in, do, how must they live etc etc for them to be considered a christian in your eyes?
Be Nice Now!
To me a Christian is anyone that believes Jesus is the son of God and is their personal savior.
CaptainXeroid
Following Christ
I think this sums it up best. Christians are those who believe that Jesus Christ is the son of the Living God and accept him as their Lord and Saviour. :cross:
Ok then God will keep all those who follow his word to the letter and no Pharisees then (as written)?
Special Revelation
Active Member
We have had many threads where this question as come up - however I cant find one specifically on this question, so I thought now would be a good time to have one with the debates going on at the moment.
It is quite simple...
In your own view - what is your definition of a Christian, what must a person belief in, do, how must they live etc etc for them to be considered a christian in your eyes?
Be Nice Now!
A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ!
If Paul was a Pharisee clearly and contradicts Christ, so his testimony holds no weight...
Then Simon is harder to see, yet in places is defined as a Pharisee also....
Yet on Christ calling him stone, is a sign laid before Yeshua/Joshua feet…
That is easily removed as Simon prophesied, changed the rock from being God, Christ was an unclean sacrifice, plus many points contradictory to allot of scriptures.
Next Pharisee “travel sea and land making disciple” and Christianity only stemmed from Paul and Simon in Antioch…..
On both Balaam teachings and grace and inheritance, which were removed (Zechariah 11) so they have contradicted the Bible and Christ (vine dressers son murdered for his inheritance).
Mar 13:10-11
(10) And the gospel must first be "Preached" (?published?) among all nations.
(11) But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
So what written gosepl?.......Scribes close up the way....
Then Simon is harder to see, yet in places is defined as a Pharisee also....
Yet on Christ calling him stone, is a sign laid before Yeshua/Joshua feet…
That is easily removed as Simon prophesied, changed the rock from being God, Christ was an unclean sacrifice, plus many points contradictory to allot of scriptures.
Next Pharisee “travel sea and land making disciple” and Christianity only stemmed from Paul and Simon in Antioch…..
On both Balaam teachings and grace and inheritance, which were removed (Zechariah 11) so they have contradicted the Bible and Christ (vine dressers son murdered for his inheritance).
Mar 13:10-11
(10) And the gospel must first be "Preached" (?published?) among all nations.
(11) But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
So what written gosepl?.......Scribes close up the way....
I don't understand. Jesus told Peter that he was the stone on His foundation he builds His church. Peter was the first to proclaim Him the Son of the Most High God. Simon Peter was an apostle as well. Why do you think that God or Jesus rejects him? What about Nicodemus? Jesus didn't reject him, either. Jesus did not reject all pharisees. Besides, it says nowhere that Peter was even a pharisee anyway.
I have heard a lot of people reject Paul, but you are the first to reject Peter. But this is all will say here on this topic, I don't want this thread taken over by this debate as it isn't fair to whoever started it. Maybe you can start it in another thread.
I have heard a lot of people reject Paul, but you are the first to reject Peter. But this is all will say here on this topic, I don't want this thread taken over by this debate as it isn't fair to whoever started it. Maybe you can start it in another thread.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I see what you're saying, but if, when you say that a Christian is one who believes in Christ, you mean that a Christian is one who believes in Jesus, most Jews and Muslims could be considered Christian. They believe in Christ. They just do not believe He is who the New Testament claims He is. I am always careful never to tell a professing Christian that he isn't one, but to me, it would pretty much be essential to see Christ as one's Savior to be called a Christian.
SoyLeche
meh...
Yeah - we've already gone over that
He admitted that my definition is better, and that I'm better looking then he is.
James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
In my opinion anyone who sincerely tries to follow Christ to the best of their ability is a Christian. They may be close to or far from the fullness of the Truth (it's a spectrum) but I certainly would not deny anyone the title of Christian if they fufill this criterion, no matter how misguided I might find their theology.
James
James
Yeah - we've already gone over that
He admitted that my definition is better, and that I'm better looking then he is.
The guy just won't stop rubbing it in!!!:banghead3
Truth_Faith13
Well-Known Member
A Christian regards God as the highest authority in the whole universe; also, a Christian considers the Holy Bible to be the biggest source of truth, and follows it's teachings.
These are the key elements of the Christian religion.
SoyLeche
meh...
Which God? Allah? Jehovah? The Flying Speghetti Monster? Is belief in the Trinity necesary?
Which Holy Bible? With or without the Apocrapha? Which translation?
SoyLeche
meh...
The Trinity belief can't be required to be a Christian because I am a Christian (and that is not debatable - I know me a lot better then you do, and I am definitely a Christian) and I don't believe in the doctrine of the Trinity - so your definition needs a bit of work
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The Bible withouth the Apocrapha. Which translation? I don't know...[/quote]
You've just said that the Catholics and a bunch of other Christians aren't Christian. Again, your definition needs some work.
I agree that they require some work, but I wasn't trying to give a definition for the Christian faith. That was just they way I see things...
A general definition would be something like this: A Christian is a person who adheres to Christianity, a monotheistic religion centered on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as presented in the New Testament. Most Christians believe Jesus to be the Son of God and the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament.
You've just said that the Catholics and a bunch of other Christians aren't Christian. Again, your definition needs some work.[/quote]
So to sum up.....
I can take a bit of satisfaction in knowing that my definition was better than at least one other person's, correct??