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What is Brahman?

Gambit

Gambit

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wizanda said:
In Hindu thinking the reality goes through renewal, within that how do we know that the end, isn't the beginning?.... We don't! So it is entirely likely that one day we create a singularity, that then becomes Brahaman. They've even made a film with this as a similar concept Transcendence.

Plus before you ask, yes I'm giving you a film guide to understanding the reality. ;)
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You're watching too many movies.
 
Gambit

Gambit

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Vinayaka said:
Individuals, depending on background, have varying definitions, or views of the uniquely Hindu concept of Brahman. Even within Hinduism, these views vary. For me it is God, both Saguna Brahman, and Nirguna Brahman.

I still don't see what there is to debate, unless people want to opine that their particular view or definition they use is more correct that everyone else's.I'm fine with anyone having an opinion. For someone attempting to figure it out, in their search, I suppose this thread might be useful.
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That's what a debate is.
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

devotee
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Oh. Carry on then. Hope I didn't interfere with your thread too much. I'll delete my posts if you want.
 
apophenia

apophenia

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Vinayaka said:
Oh. Carry on then. Hope I didn't interfere with your thread too much. I'll delete my posts if you want.
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I think "What is Brahman ?" allows plenty of scope. And here we have a general discussion/debate outside the Hindu DIR, so lots of folk can get on board and express their 'angle' on it.

Interfere ? I don't think so. Hearing from a practicing devotee, who talks in simple frank terms, is always good and relevant in a discussion like this one. :)
 
apophenia

apophenia

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FearGod said:
Rahman is one of the deity names.
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Could you please link me to more information about that ? Are deity names the same thing as the 99 names ? Seems so when I google it. I have seen the list and translation of the 99 names, but I am not familiar with their common usage in arabic communities.

I thought muslims used expressions like"in the name of allah the subtle" or "in the name of allah the merciful". I read that latifa is 'the subtle' or something similar. So how would you say those ?

About 25 years ago, I attended sufi teachings for a year or so. Mevlevi. I remember the words "bismillah ramahn rahim" in rituals. Something a lot like that anyway:) I was not really a scholar though, I was learning zikr (also spelt dikr) and the mevlevi turning dance..

Also, in a novel about travel in Egypt, an author recounted that Egyptians use the phrase "ya latifa !" in a way similar to western hippies use of "far out !" when reacting to some extraordinary thing.
Is that correct ?
 
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apophenia

apophenia

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Aupmanyav said:
Me too. I am not divine, God-like, too many fallibilities. And since just one thing exists, there must be no God (that will be a second). Simple logic.
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Yes. The term divine is reduntant in a sense.

In the same way, the term physical could be considered reduntant.
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Agree with you. Physical energy - is it transphysical as in the case of an electric current or in form of mass?
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
apophenia said:
So a muslim might say bismillah, followed by a name ? e.g. bismillah latifa ?
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"Latifa or Lateefa is a female Arabic first name which means gentle, pleasant or cute, corresponding to Latif.' - Wikipedia.
In Hindi or Urdu 'Latifa' or 'Latifah' means a joke. If you are referring to 'Bismillah, Latifa', it means 'Latifa, now you begin in the name of Allah', which is a joke. No?
 
apophenia

apophenia

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Aupmanyav said:
"Latifa or Lateefa is a female Arabic first name which means gentle, pleasant or cute, corresponding to Latif.' - Wikipedia.
In Hindi or Urdu 'Latifa' or 'Latifah' means a joke. If you are referring to 'Bismillah, Latifa', it means 'Latifa, now you begin in the name of Allah', which is a joke. No?
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31.Al Latif (اللطيف) The Subtly Kind

31 اللطيف The Subtle One Al-Latif
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
apophenia said:
To my scant knowledge and scholarship, I get the feeling that this was the pre-aryan teaching, or at least a prime example of it, of the area you spoke of ..
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Pre-Aryan would mean something like before 6,000 BC. Zoroaster was an Aryan, of Athravan descent, allergic to Angirasas (another line of Aryan priests). These two were the oldest Aryan priests, referred to in RigVedas as 'our fathers'). Zoroaster's ancestors travelled to Punjab but returned to Central Asia because of heat and fever in India. That is why the area, Hapta-Hendu (Sapta-Sindhu) is mentioned in the Avesta as the fifteenth homeland of Aryans. I did not find people of Atharva gotra (clan) among brahmins in India.
Atharvan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
apophenia

apophenia

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Aupmanyav said:
Pre-Aryan would mean something like before 6,000 BC. Zoroaster was an Aryan, of Athravan descent, allergic to Angirasas (another line of Aryan priests). These two were the oldest Aryan priests, referred to in RigVedas as 'our fathers'). Zoroaster's ancestors travelled to Punjab but returned to Central Asia because of heat and fever in India. That is why the area, Hapta-Hendu (Sapta-Sindhu) is mentioned in the Avesta as the fifteenth homeland of Aryans. I did not find people of Atharva gotra (clan) among brahmins in India.
Atharvan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Thanks for that.
 
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