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What is Christianity morphing into?

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Can't read Greek, but Saint Jerome was very meticulous in translating the Greek texts directly to retain the exact meanings in Latin, and I've never heard of him being disputed. So "Et Verbum caro factum est, et habitavit in nobis..." is "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us... as it would come from Greek.

In any case, "enfleshed" and "The Word was made flesh" mean the same thing.

Jesus came to earth both fully human and fully divine, which should not be so hard to believe, because that is easily within God's infinite capabilities.

No they do not mean the same thing.

One means ERRONEOUSLY that the Logos became something.

The other means the Logos entered into Jesus - the HUMAN - no God.

I don't know what it is with you folks that you believe later tradition, rather then what the Bible actually says - and doesn't say, = Jesus does not teach that he is a God, or part of any trinity.

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Sand Dancer

Currently catless
I see a big schism between fundamentalists and moderate/liberals in their respective religions, but thankfully the general population's views and the mod/lib views are becoming more similar, so that fundamentalists will be an even smaller group.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Serious question, is Xianity turning into a non-monotheistic religion, or, is the morphology, aimed at making Jesus 'merely a Rabbi', and then ...well, I don't know, you tell me.
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I have to back track here.

No. I feel its the other way around. Christianity has morphed by seeing Jesus as a deity. It used to be One God and Jesus was the follower of that one God. Everything was fine until now we read scripture and it says "the only way to get to the father is to get through me". So, people start worshiping Jesus instead.

I dont see Jesus as a demi God nor God. I just see christianity morphing or changing because now people do see Him as that.

No. No one is making Him a " 'mere' Rabbi". Scripture says He is and a High priest. Thats a given. So, I dont understand how that is related to christianity turning into a non monotheistic faith.

The moment people started worshiping Jesus it stops being monotheistic. I dont know what you call it; but, monotheist worship one God. No form of human attached. (If were talking strict abrahamic view)
It doesn't really matter what it's called. I don't believe in separate aspects in the Godhead, so if you don't think that that is monotheism, then I have no idea what you would call it. Jesus is a human or Israel name for the Deity, that is why there is nothing ''completely human'', about Jesus, in the first place. He doesn't have a human father, He walks on water, etc.

Wacky fictional tales of Rabbi fishermen , rather , hold no meaning to me.

Jesus is God, is YHWH, that is why He is called such, in the Bible.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
It doesn't really matter what it's called. I don't believe in separate aspects in the Godhead, so if you don't think that that is monotheism, then I have no idea what you would call it. Jesus is a human or Israel name for the Deity, that is why there is nothing ''completely human'', about Jesus, in the first place. He doesn't have a human father, He walks on water, etc.

Wacky fictional tales of Rabbi fishermen , rather , hold no meaning to me.

Jesus is God, is YHWH, that is why He is called such, in the Bible.

I cant remember the theme of this thread. I find it insultive to call Jesus God. He's do to me as he to his disiciples, "why call me good. The only good is the father"...so Id call him Son of God (Father's Son) and Son of man (the servant to His Father's creation with whom he died to save). Never God.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
It doesn't really matter what it's called. I don't believe in separate aspects in the Godhead, so if you don't think that that is monotheism, then I have no idea what you would call it. Jesus is a human or Israel name for the Deity, that is why there is nothing ''completely human'', about Jesus, in the first place. He doesn't have a human father, He walks on water, etc.

Wacky fictional tales of Rabbi fishermen , rather , hold no meaning to me.

Jesus is God, is YHWH, that is why He is called such, in the Bible.
That presents some real problems with the Christian argument of atonement, doesn't it?

For example, if Jesus is not human at all, then all of the tales of suffering are cheapened because they aren't really "sufferings" at all. Since he wasn't human to begin with, he can't be constrained by our petty attempts at torture, can he? I mean, what pain is there really in a few petty stones being thrown at a god, or in hanging his mask of a "body" on a tree? He's transcendent, so why make a big deal about the pain and suffering that probably had no affect on him at all, since he's not one of us. Superman stepping in front of a bullet is a much lesser sacrifice than a regular human stepping in front of a bullet, don't you think?
 
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