I find it very conceited and sad.
Yes, of course you do. To malign me means you don't have to rise to the challenge of actual dialog. It's much easier to call me arrogant than to consider the validity of my points of view. Isn't it?
Again, to repeat what I was originally responding to you stated as an attack against me, as an insult, "Don't you think it sounds a bit conceited to think that your words are so lofty that others haven't the ability to comprehend them?". Calling my words "lofty" and so forth, is an attempt by yourself to detract from the fact you are failing in the points you are trying to make by criticizing me as being egotistically. I find this curious you try to find a mote in my eye, while you swallow a camel of hypocrisy at the end of your latest post where you try to sling mud at me saying, "Why do you express such a condescending and sarcastic tone or use profane words when you are so spiritually enlightened in "love, light and life" ?.". You don't see yourself doing what you accuse me of here? I do. In fact, you're far worse than whatever it is you imagine I am doing.
Back to reality, I'm more than happy to admit you truly understand what I am saying by having you accurately repeat back what I am saying. I most certainly never see Yoshua do this, nor do I get the impression you do either. So that's a fact. Now the reasons for it, logically, rationally, and well-considered, are in fact a matter of context, as I rightly pointed out. Let me give you an example.
Would you understand me if I were to say to you, something like, "Opening the aperture will give you a shorter depth of field and create a stronger sense of presence for the subject."? If you had the necessary context of understanding photographic equipment you would. But only a fool would saying I am being conceited to talk about the relevance of such things to those who only understood taking photos with their cell phones. Those who would accuse me of this, clearly have a problem themselves. "Are you saying I don't know photography!", they bemoan hearing someone who is a professional speak in terms beyond their own awareness. Who exactly is puffing themselves up in the above scenario?
But the scriptures speak about those who are puffed up and speak great swelling words as if they are so spiritually advanced, yet it really is nothing more than twisting the simple truths of God revealed through the scriptures into a false and different gospel.
Have you considered this may be describing yourself? What upsets you so when you hear others who are more knowledgable than yourself? To me, it's you who doesn't hear the words of scripture as you criticize other beliefs than your own as anti-scriptural. You think it's about having right beliefs and judge those who believe differently, quoting the Bible at them as a stabbing instrument to injure them. I think it's about love and understanding, respecting differences and not using God to prove yourself in the right.
You can think I "don't get it" if it makes you feel more enlightened, but I do know what is occurring because I trust the Word of God. Not my own thinking or imagination, as it appears you are all to ready to depend upon.
I do in fact believe you do not get it, and it has nothing to do with my ego needs. You do not understand how your own ideas of truth are what it is your are believing in. It's true for you. It's true for me. It's true for every single human on the planet. But you are blind to yourself in this. If you trusted God, you wouldn't be so concerned about right beliefs.
Whether it's your spiritual or rational views, they are relaivistic, so I think your whole mindset has crossed over into illogical and irrational thinking.
Not whatsoever. I am extremely logical. I am extremely rational. And I am also very knowledgeable. For you to say I am irrational, is well, highly irrational. I have very well considered, and well researched reasons behind the points of view I am expressing. To call me irrational, is irrational.
Plenty of people, as you say, may see things this way and that is because it's a great way to avoid acknowledging truth and error or being accountable to a God who defines right and wrong. Everything becomes subjective and relative.
Ridiculous. Again, even in your expressing here what you think relativism claims proves you do not in fact understand what it actually is. That is my point. You don't understand it. You lack the context to understand it. I would say understanding the relative nature of truth makes you more accountable. Relativism is not all subjective, it's
objective truth itself that is relative! You do not understand this.
Actually, I can't reason with you because I believe you are living apart from reality in your own nebulous, mystical world where logic and objective truth do not exist.
I'm not sure your realize how ridiculous this sounds. It's just nothing but wild accusations about something beyond what you can grasp. It has no basis in reality. It screams irrationality and desperation to remove any consideration of another's point of view.
Or even if you acknowledge truth exists you come across as if it is somehow beyond human grasp (with the exception of yourself and those with similar mindsets who you must believe have a far superior grasp than those simple-minded Christians who believe the scriptures in their plain sense, like Yoshua or myself), so as to have no significant or practical impact on one's life.
The Truth of God is beyond human grasp. What I'm talking about is not. No one, including myself can comprehend God. All the rest of this is just you trying to sling mud because you want to dirty me rather than deal with what I'm saying. That's your ego defending itself.
It is very difficult to talk to someone in that state.
You create this false image of me as being in this state which exists solely in your fabricated imagination, in order for you to not have to deal with something which clearly challenges your beliefs. It clearly does, otherwise you wouldn't be taking this path of desperation.
I certainly do allow for your perspective because I believe God has allowed freewill and considers it important.
No you don't. You shut your mind to them.
That doesn't mean that any spiritual perspective is necessarily correct. I do believe your perspective is wrong because it does not line up with the scriptures, which I believe God gave for discernment of truth and error.
It's not when you limit the scope of your own perspectives, as you are with me and everyone else you chose not to agree with.
