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What is Deja Vu?
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kashmir
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So you think you know more about my experience than I do? Interesting.
I am just going by scientific studies on the subject, did not mean to offend you.
Not offended. What happened happened, and the scientific studies don't reflect what I experienced. But then mystics have all kinds of experiences that aren't explained by science. Scientists like to think they have all the answers to everything, but they don't, especially in this realm. Not that it matters.
Mystics have visions, and scientists explain by saying it didn't happen. That's not much of an explanation, in my opinion.
kashmir
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Science doesn't know everything, that's for sure.
I believe quantum mechanics proves much more than naturalists are willing to admit.
My gramma, mom, and me, seem to have some sort of huge "gut feelings" on life.
I am convinced there is energy all around us that we indirectly channel in.
I also believe we have the power to move stuff with our minds, if only we knew how,..going off topic now..
ratikala
Istha gosthi
namaskaram vinayaka ji
dont worry you are not mad and yes it deffinately happens , when I was younger and used to listen to music radio when I was working I used to do it all the time ....I used to start internaly hearing a song I liked and the thought would come to me ...ok enough silence turn on the radio ...and there it was playng the same song , ....it wasnt co incidence it happened too often ....the only thing I couldnt understand was how comes I was tuning in to the station that my radio was set on ? ...
but it happens so there you are ....I only realy listen to the radio now for news and the occasional documentary program , but I still do it I can be working away quite absorbed in what I am doing and sudenly think ....'6.00 ..the news'...and switch on the radio just as the pips are marking the hour , .... do I hear them or do I just have a good body clock ?
but returning to deja vu ....I get a lot of visual deja vu ....I will see something that just stops me in my tracks , I cant fully explain it , my mind will recognise something quite out of the blue which stops all the thinking proceses of that moment , and for that moment puts you somewhere else , it is normaly only a split second I used to do it a lot with people , not every one, but occasionaly but I would meet a new person and suddenly be shocked because I could see two people in their face and in their demeanor it is like the deja vu one feels in places one has never been before , when one knows that place as terribly familliar .
dont worry you are not mad and yes it deffinately happens , when I was younger and used to listen to music radio when I was working I used to do it all the time ....I used to start internaly hearing a song I liked and the thought would come to me ...ok enough silence turn on the radio ...and there it was playng the same song , ....it wasnt co incidence it happened too often ....the only thing I couldnt understand was how comes I was tuning in to the station that my radio was set on ? ...
but it happens so there you are ....I only realy listen to the radio now for news and the occasional documentary program , but I still do it I can be working away quite absorbed in what I am doing and sudenly think ....'6.00 ..the news'...and switch on the radio just as the pips are marking the hour , .... do I hear them or do I just have a good body clock ?
but returning to deja vu ....I get a lot of visual deja vu ....I will see something that just stops me in my tracks , I cant fully explain it , my mind will recognise something quite out of the blue which stops all the thinking proceses of that moment , and for that moment puts you somewhere else , it is normaly only a split second I used to do it a lot with people , not every one, but occasionaly but I would meet a new person and suddenly be shocked because I could see two people in their face and in their demeanor it is like the deja vu one feels in places one has never been before , when one knows that place as terribly familliar .
Thanks Ratikala. I'd heard of the phenomena as well. Large crystals can pick up radio waves of course. So there is a ton of invisible stuff out there.
As for deja vu, it doesn't happen to me much other than when we travel. In India it happened a lot, and I can only guess it was from past lives. India is so different in every way from Canada it could hardly be something in this particular body's memory.
But often I think it just is something familiar that one doesn't remember. Then again, I don't care like I used to about these kinds of phenomena because it's not all that helpful on the path, and it may well be that they have become ordinary ... to me. Another example is when my spouse and I are having the same thought at the same time. Happens all the time ... at first we found it enthralling, now not so much.
As for deja vu, it doesn't happen to me much other than when we travel. In India it happened a lot, and I can only guess it was from past lives. India is so different in every way from Canada it could hardly be something in this particular body's memory.
But often I think it just is something familiar that one doesn't remember. Then again, I don't care like I used to about these kinds of phenomena because it's not all that helpful on the path, and it may well be that they have become ordinary ... to me. Another example is when my spouse and I are having the same thought at the same time. Happens all the time ... at first we found it enthralling, now not so much.
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Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
My guess would be something similar to schizophrenia. Schizophrenics sometimes have the incoming data "time-stamped" for an earlier time, which is why they think the TV is reading their mind. In this case it would be a stream of data being stamped for two different times, or the brain trying to piece together or replace lost memories with incoming data.
ratikala
Istha gosthi
namaskaram vinayaka ji
like you I think that there are millions of things that we could develop awareness of it is juat that we develop bodily sences over the more subtle sences , many of these awarenesses are present in children but as we grow older we absorb ourselves more in the physical body and its concerns which simply means that other sences become dulled .
I havent yet been fortunate enough to visit India , but we hope that with luck we can go next year ...I will be interested to see how much familiarity I actualy feel there , I know here that there are some things about Indian culture that are so so familiar , and descovering them felt like coming home . so equaly I simply assume that these feelings are past life recolections .
no , I am not that much fussed by it either its just something one observes , but its quite funny when it happens and if ones partner understands then it is much more comfortable because you are alowed to mention it without fear of being thought a little crazy ,.
do you feel that what we call deja vu is linked to previous life expreiences ?
like you I think that there are millions of things that we could develop awareness of it is juat that we develop bodily sences over the more subtle sences , many of these awarenesses are present in children but as we grow older we absorb ourselves more in the physical body and its concerns which simply means that other sences become dulled .
I havent yet been fortunate enough to visit India , but we hope that with luck we can go next year ...I will be interested to see how much familiarity I actualy feel there , I know here that there are some things about Indian culture that are so so familiar , and descovering them felt like coming home . so equaly I simply assume that these feelings are past life recolections .
no , I am not that much fussed by it either its just something one observes , but its quite funny when it happens and if ones partner understands then it is much more comfortable because you are alowed to mention it without fear of being thought a little crazy ,.
do you feel that what we call deja vu is linked to previous life expreiences ?
I think deja-vu is a catch all phrase for a lot of things.
The question is whether brain decides to make a fellow schizophrenic?
Let me try to illustrate. I have seen dying people suffer unbearable intense fear and restlessness for a period when it becomes certain that death was inevitable. But at the moment of the death same person is filled with relief and peace, which is reflected in face and body. On being asked the reason, the attending doctor said something about dopamine being released at that moment. I asked him "Why dopamine is released?"
But that is somewhat odd. How a memory is created without consciousness? Memory itself should imply consciousness. No?
I can understand one sided deja vu. But what when it apparently is two way?
I have never suffered (or enjoyed) deja vu, except once. It was in 1996-97. I saw a girl at my work place and I was sure that I had seen her at some other work centre (i being in a transferrable job). But I could not remember where I had seen her. One day, I was going out through a gate and I encountered her when she was coming in through the same gate. When we were face to face she asked "You are here?". I asked her back whether she knew me and she said that she had mistaken me for someone else she knew.
It was eerie. Later, since we worked in the same team, I asked her again. She would never say who it was that she mistook me to be. Once, however, she laughingly said "You probably like Waheeda Rehman. People say that I resemble her." Waheeda Rehman was a leading lady of yesteryears in Bollywood films and I indeed liked her for her looks, charms, and her acting capability. And my friend indeed looked like Waheeda. But what about her mistaking me for someone else?
She later, in some different context, divulged that I looked somewhat like Guru Dutt, a famous director who was actually a mentor of Waheeda and directed many of her important movies.
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This deja vu meeting changed my life for worse. It actually destroyed my life.
But, eventually it exposed me to the upanishadic teaching "You are what your deep, driving desire is. As your desire is, so is your will. As your will is, so is your deed. As your deed is, so is your destiny."
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
factseeker88
factseeker88
My memory is not created, it's stimulated by someone or something. Your post, for example, stimulated my response. Thanks for waking me up.
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO. John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]
A brilliant album.
factseeker88
factseeker88
"It's deja vu all over again." Yogi Berra
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[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO. John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]