Gambit
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Good. Then you should understand the direct relationship between will power and mental energy.
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What is energy?
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Good. Then you should understand the direct relationship between will power and mental energy.
seanceghostwalker
Member
Believing in science and being biblically religious in a contradiction in terms and conditions
Are you trying to say there's a difference between will power and mental energy, if so I personally don't see any difference because they're the same thing other than how you perceive it.
seanceghostwalker
Member
Perception is the difference
Some really book smart people still don't have a high perception so will power to overcome and to do something is an addiction most people fail with addiction and mental energy you have to eat food
Some really book smart people still don't have a high perception so will power to overcome and to do something is an addiction most people fail with addiction and mental energy you have to eat food
Gambit
Well-Known Member
No, I'm not. I'm arguing that our first-person experience of our own will power qualifies as evidence for the reality of mental energy.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I've seen dead people.
The chemistry failed.
I would like to think the spirit did not.
gnostic
The Lost One
What you "like to think" amounts to nothing more than "wishful thinking", don't you think?
gnostic
The Lost One
Except that will power and mental energy are both tied to physical functions of the brain, and being physical it required brain activity, and this required the heart to function too.
Once the heart stop, and blood cease to circulate around the brain, supplying the brain with vital oxygen, then brain cells will start dying, then will power and mental energy will cease to exist.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
The body is a learning device.
It shows you reality in five different means.
You are here to learn all that you can before you die.
There is no mystery to life.
And I see no mystery to the next life.
Learn well....do well.
The angels will allow it, if you can do well.
The body is designed to produce a soul....it can do nothing else.
All this learning....and it crumbles when the chemistry fails?
I think not.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Note previous post.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Energy is never 'non-existent'. It is simply transformed.
Energy exists with no apparent effect?......sure does!.....
Science has decided 'dark' energy DOES exist..................just can't prove it yet!!!!!!!
shawn001
Well-Known Member
At one point it was thought the entire universe was the Milkyway, until Hubble in the 1920's discovered Andromeda and then 100 billion more Galaxies were found.
So this "based on the present physical science" is right but it doesn't mean they won't figure it out with science and the natural laws of the universe.
Science is where we learned about the 5% matter composition and the universe's other properties.
Dark Matter Just Got Darker (and Weirder)
Dark Matter Just Got Darker (and Weirder) : Discovery News
shawn001
Well-Known Member
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
How so?
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
For sure....the original Greek meaning of the word science is knowledge...and was not confined to just the physical. As science proceeds to find out about dark matter and energy, knowledge about the nature of the non-physical will arise...and its causal relationship with physical matter..
Gambit
Well-Known Member
You're the one who is assuming that all of our energy is physiological, not me. We are re-energized by accessing our "substrate consciousness" (ãlayavijñãna) during dreamless sleep or meditation.
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shawn001
Well-Known Member
"during dreamless sleep" Your brain is still active chemically and electrically.
Meditation is a state you can put your brain in.
You are re-energized by eating and breathing and energy from the Sun.
"You're the one who is assuming that all of our energy is physiological"
It is and that is already known.
You really don't understand the brain and how it works and consciousness. Please do us all a favor and actually study some neuroscience.
The below is 5 years old and a lot more progress has been made.
How does the brain generate consciousness? Baroness Susan Greenfield: ANU
"Baroness Susan Greenfield CBE Hon FRCP, Member, House of Lords, United Kingdom, Professor of Synaptic Pharmacology, Lincoln College, Oxford University presents this lecture: How does the brain generate consciousness? This video was recorded at The Australian National University on 30 August 2010, and was the keynote speech at a John Curtin School of Medical Research symposium: New Perspectives in Clinical Neuroscience and Mental Health.
Susan Greenfield was both an undergraduate and graduate at Oxford, but has subsequently spent time in postdoctoral research at the College de France, Paris, with Professor J Glowinski and at the New York University Medical Centre, New York, with Professor R Llinas. As a consequence of working in both biochemical and electrophysiological environments she has developed a multidisciplinary approach to exploring novel neuronal mechanisms in the brain that are common to regions affected in both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease. The basic theme of her research is to develop strategies to arrest neuronal death in these disorders.
She is also co-founder of a university spin-out company specialising in novel approaches to neurodegeneration, - Synaptica Ltd In addition, Professor Greenfield has a supplementary interest in the neuroscientific basis of consciousness, and accordingly has written 'Journey to the Centres of the Mind Toward a Science of Consciousness' (1995) W H Freeman Co, and 'Private Life of the Brain' (2000) Penguin. Her latest book 'Tomorrow's People: How 21st Century technology is changing the way we think and feel' (Penguin 2003), explores human nature, and its potential vulnerability in an age of technology.
In addition, she is also Director of the Institute for the Future of the Mind, part of the James Martin 21st Century School, which exploits the parallels between the brains of the very young and very old, and how they are all vunerable to technology, chemical manipulation, and disease.
She has also written 'The Human Brain': A Guided Tour (1997) Orion-Phoenix Press, which ranked in the best seller list for hard and paperbacks.
She held the Gresham Chair of Physic from 1996-1999, and has received 28 honorary degrees. In 1998 she was awarded the Michael Faraday medal by the Royal Society and in 1999 was elected to an Honorary Fellowship of the Royal College of Physicians. She is also involved in science policy and has given a consultative seminar to the Prime Minister on the future of science in the UK. Susan has been involved in the 'Science and the Economy' seminars at No 11 and in response to a request in 2002 from the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, she produced the Greenfield Report 'SET Fair: A Report on Women in Science, Engineering, and Technology'. She was awarded the CBE in the Millennium New Year's Honour's List and Life Peerage (non-political) in 2001. In 2003 she was awarded the Ordre National de la Legion d'Honneur.
She even addresses your beliefs.
Do you have any evidence that your brain acts as a receiver for some cosmic consciousness signals from the universe in any of the sciences? Not religion or philosophy but science.
shawn001
Well-Known Member
Good luck dreaming or meditating if someone were to stop all the electrical and chemical activity of your brain, would you still be conscious?