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What is "evil?"

Quester

Member
I see no reason to presume that evil actions in general require a "glitch" in the brain.
Do you have a "damage OR genetic glitch"? If not, I'm sure you'd find it hard to shoot someone, and this would be because your brain works correctly. I hate guns myself ... and even though some people (like Putin) need to be shot ... I couldn't do it.
 

Quester

Member
It's true not all psychopaths kill. They're best described as running on instincts for survival for themselves as opposed to accomodating survival for others.

A lot of CEOs and government officials are psychopaths in that regard.
With regard to the "government" picture ... and I discussed my approach on this with a PhD psychologist who had an interest in what I was doing, this non-empathic / antisocial approach has been the center of religion, and later government, for the last 15,000 rounded years.
 

Quester

Member
Being as we are a social species biologically by default then couldn't a simple breakdown of good and evil be pro- vs anti- social tendencies?
Yeah, but I like defining terms better myself ... hence the "non-empathics" as a general all-encompassing term. (Psychopaths / narcissistic personality disorder / pathological liars ... etc)
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Do you have a "damage OR genetic glitch"?

How would you or I figure that out?

If not, I'm sure you'd find it hard to shoot someone, and this would be because your brain works correctly.

I legit wonder how you have reached this conclusion.

I hate guns myself ... and even though some people (like Putin) need to be shot ... I couldn't do it.

But then you are presuming that shooting Putin would be evil. Why?
 

Quester

Member
How would you or I figure that out?
You could start with a brain scan.

I legit wonder how you have reached this conclusion.

I know what a "working brain" feels like. Granted, I don't know you, but I know how people feel about that subject.

But then you are presuming that shooting Putin would be evil. Why?
Killing anyone is not the way things should be. My reply was about myself ... I hate guns to start with.
 

Quester

Member
I'm not sure. That's something I would have to give some thought to.
Just to add to this ... you can use any terminology that fits your approach ... like I wrote above, I have my own approach (non-empathics), and it creates a question in people's minds that the answer to straightens out.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Depending on your source / religious belief, evil has been a topic that people tried to explain for millennia. As usual, whatever the religion of your particular people, you are right and everyone else is wrong.

You can get a topic overview here, and expand the picture if you want:

The bottom line regarding "evil" is that it's a biological / psychological "glitch." The idea is, regarding the brain, using the best example, is that non-empathic people have no feelings for others. They have no feelings because the areas of the brain designed to create "feelings," simply put, don't work. This would be the foundation of potential problems, and if pushed over the line - watch out.

In this picture, the comparison between, for instance, sociopaths and psychopaths make a good defining picture. If a sociopath has had a good / non-intrusive life from parents and people while growing up, they will simply grow up and do what needs to be done career-wise, and although they aren't 100% "hidden" ... they still lead a basically quiet life. I've known these type people for years, and they're interesting to watch and study.

This idea is best defined in this video.


Depending on your source / religious belief, evil has been a topic that people tried to explain for millennia. As usual, whatever the religion of your particular people, you are right and everyone else is wrong.

You can get a topic overview here, and expand the picture if you want:

The bottom line regarding "evil" is that it's a biological / psychological "glitch." The idea is, regarding the brain, using the best example, is that non-empathic people have no feelings for others. They have no feelings because the areas of the brain designed to create "feelings," simply put, don't work. This would be the foundation of potential problems, and if pushed over the line - watch out.

In this picture, the comparison between, for instance, sociopaths and psychopaths make a good defining picture. If a sociopath has had a good / non-intrusive life from parents and people while growing up, they will simply grow up and do what needs to be done career-wise, and although they aren't 100% "hidden" ... they still lead a basically quiet life. I've known these type people for years, and they're interesting to watch and study.

This idea is best defined in this video.

I would not define lack of empathy as “evil”. Sociopaths and psychopaths are tricky and can cause all sorts of harm, yes.

But “evil” -to the extent that one at all chooses the term- would be more appropriate for sadists. And normal brain function unfortunately does not prevent a sadistic disposition.

Humbly,
Hermit
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
You could start with a brain scan.

Looking for what specifically?

I know what a "working brain" feels like.

Do you? How did you determine you have a "working brain"? And how did you reach the conclusion everyone is alike?

Granted, I don't know you, but I know how people feel about that subject.

How many people out of billions?


Killing anyone is not the way things should be. My reply was about myself ... I hate guns to start with.

Why is killing anyone not the way things should be?
 

Quester

Member
I would not define lack of empathy as “evil”. Sociopaths and psychopaths are tricky and can cause all sorts of harm, yes.
Like the video above ... Dr Fallon is NOT "evil" ... he IS a non-empathic sociopath, he DOES have ALL the genetics to be a killer (like is family history shows), but his life did not push him over the edge.


But “evil” -to the extent that one at all chooses the term- would be more appropriate for sadists. And normal brain function unfortunately does not prevent a sadistic disposition.

Humbly,
Hermit
The idea is, each division in the picture has been identified and isolated by the psychological community. They call each what they call it for a reason.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
I would not define lack of empathy as “evil”. Sociopaths and psychopaths are tricky and can cause all sorts of harm, yes.

But “evil” -to the extent that one at all chooses the term- would be more appropriate for sadists. And normal brain function unfortunately does not prevent a sadistic disposition.

Humbly,
Hermit

I think sadism as cruel, and cruelty as almost always evil, but not always.

A very simple and trivial example would be the concept of torturing Hitler during his last days on Earth. I would find that just and that which is just is not evil.

I am aware not everyone would agree. I am simply sharing my perspective.
 

Quester

Member
Looking for what specifically?
Leave that up to the professionals.

Do you? How did you determine you have a "working brain"? And how did you reach the conclusion everyone is alike?
If you look at anyone (especially in forums) glitches are easy to spot if you read what they say. Identifying the glitch is a problem, but, it can be seen. I know what a working brain is like too.


How many people out of billions?

Why is killing anyone not the way things should be?
Why can't you figure this out? Hmm ...
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Depending on your source / religious belief, evil has been a topic that people tried to explain for millennia. As usual, whatever the religion of your particular people, you are right and everyone else is wrong.

You can get a topic overview here, and expand the picture if you want:

The bottom line regarding "evil" is that it's a biological / psychological "glitch." The idea is, regarding the brain, using the best example, is that non-empathic people have no feelings for others. They have no feelings because the areas of the brain designed to create "feelings," simply put, don't work. This would be the foundation of potential problems, and if pushed over the line - watch out.

In this picture, the comparison between, for instance, sociopaths and psychopaths make a good defining picture. If a sociopath has had a good / non-intrusive life from parents and people while growing up, they will simply grow up and do what needs to be done career-wise, and although they aren't 100% "hidden" ... they still lead a basically quiet life. I've known these type people for years, and they're interesting to watch and study.

This idea is best defined in this video.

What makes a person evil?
Thoughts? Actions? Neither? Both? More?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Leave that up to the professionals.

The professionals would be looking for what specifically?

If you look at anyone (especially in forums) glitches are easy to spot if you read what they say. Identifying the glitch is a problem, but, it can be seen. I know what a working brain is like too.

This is beginning to sound like dowsing.

Why can't you figure this out? Hmm ...

Perhaps it is not that I have not figured it out, but rather... a consequence of being exposed to multiple different perspectives either through listening to a vast array of people or reading multiple different philosophy texts concerning ethics?
 

Quester

Member
The professionals would be looking for what specifically?
Anything that wasn't functioning normally.

This is beginning to sound like dowsing.
It's true.
Perhaps it is not that I have not figured it out, but rather... a consequence of being exposed to multiple different perspectives either through listening to a vast array of people or reading multiple different philosophy texts concerning ethics?
If you create your picture via hard data, there are no problems. I've listened to people for decades regarding religion ... I still don't have a problem because I know what the history is all about.
 
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