What is God, from a non-human perspective?

[Just_me_Mike]

When you define God, it is always with your bias, experience, notions, culture etc...

Why can we not define God in such a way that excludes our inner feelings, thoughts, observations about what we hope, think, or dream God to be?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Why can we not define God in such a way that excludes our inner feelings, thoughts, observations about what we hope, think, or dream God to be?

Because that's all god really is?

 

[Just_me_Mike]

Because that's all god really is?

To many, that would seem to be the case.
All definitions I have ever heard, and admittedly tried to provide are selfish arrogant attempts to explain something unexplainable.

 

[PolyHedral]

As well as what Kilgore said, if God were to actually exist as normally thought of, he'd knew about the entire universe. Of which we are 1 small rock in over 200 billion billion. To quote Watchmen:

"Do you prefer red or black ants?"

 

[sandandfoam]

All definitions I have ever heard, and admittedly tried to provide are selfish arrogant attempts to explain something unexplainable.

I am in exactly the same boat. Many consider God ineffable.

 

[Reptillian]

The problem is that when we attempt to define god in a non human way we end up with an abstract non human god who doesn't really care about people or their lives...why would anyone want to worship such a deity anyway?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I am in exactly the same boat. Many consider God ineffable.

Ineffability renders the label god meaningless.

 

[sandandfoam]

Ineffability renders the label god meaningless.

Not to me.
There is something beyond words in which I find myself existing. There is a wonder which I cannot describe. It flows through me and around me.
God is something to me. I am not suggesting that He is to you because clearly he is not.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Not to me.
There is something beyond words in which I find myself existing. There is a wonder which I cannot describe. It flows through me and around me.
God is something to me. I am not suggesting that He is to you because clearly he is not.

Many people lack the words to describe their experiences. This doesn't mean the words do not exist.

 

[Jeremiah]

When you define God, it is always with your bias, experience, notions, culture etc...

Why can we not define God in such a way that excludes our inner feelings, thoughts, observations about what we hope, think, or dream God to be?

"What is God, from a non-human perspective?"

How exactly does one define "God" from a non-human perspective? Should we ask a dog or, perhaps, a tree?

 

[Just_me_Mike]

How exactly does one define "God" from a non-human perspective? Should we ask a dog or, perhaps, a tree?

Perhaps ask God?

 

[Twig pentagram]

When you define God, it is always with your bias, experience, notions, culture etc...

Why can we not define God in such a way that excludes our inner feelings, thoughts, observations about what we hope, think, or dream God to be?

I don't define the universe. I observe it.

 

[Willamena]

When you define God, it is always with your bias, experience, notions, culture etc...

Why can we not define God in such a way that excludes our inner feelings, thoughts, observations about what we hope, think, or dream God to be?

Because that's all we really are.

 

[Willamena]

Many people lack the words to describe their experiences. This doesn't mean the words do not exist.

But for G-d that's what it means: the words do not exist. Neither any something, nor even nothing, can describe G-d.

 

[PolyHedral]

So why do have a label for a meaningless concept?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

But for G-d that's what it means: the words do not exist. Neither any something, nor even nothing, can describe G-d.

Then there's no way to know what it is that one is experiencing is god. Any vague, ambiguous, undefinable feeling/experience could be labeled as god. Although, come to think of, that's probably quite apt.

 

[Willamena]

Then there's no way to know what it is that one is experiencing is god. Any vague, ambiguous, undefinable feeling/experience could be labeled as god. Although, come to think of, that's probably quite apt.

True, but I was just clarifying "ineffable".

 

[Willamena]

So why do have a label for a meaningless concept?

Because it's not meaningless to those who use the label?

 

[Willamena]

The problem is that when we attempt to define god in a non human way we end up with an abstract non human god who doesn't really care about people or their lives...why would anyone want to worship such a deity anyway?

Or totally cares about every single living thing and their lives. If it's non-human, it has to be the inverse of those people who don't care, too.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

True, but I was just clarifying "ineffable".

An unnecessary clarification, since the word ineffable wasn't used in my post, the post I was responding to, nor your response. But, thanks for the clarification anyway, I guess.