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What is Happening in Our Schools?

3rdAngel

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"According to scriptures," as I have both said to you and to the poster to which I responded here, is not a valid argument. It's not the only heresy. But, since you raise the issue, not even the bible suggests that the bible is the only source for God's word. So, even were your statement valid, it would still be wrong.

Why make arguments no one is making? There is nothing wrong with outside sources if they agree with what is written in the scriptures as they testify to the truth of what is written. As posted earlier heresy is to follow man made teachings and traditions that lead others away from God's Word. This is the apostolic teaching *ACTS 5:29 which are God's Words not mine.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Why make arguments no one is making? There is nothing wrong with outside sources if they agree with what is written in the scriptures as they testify to the truth of what is written. As posted earlier heresy is to follow man made teachings and traditions that lead others away from God's Word. This is the apostolic teaching *ACTS 5:29 which are God's Words not mine.
This doesn't address my argument. YOU said "According to the scriptures..." You're the one using the scriptures and not an outside source. Sola scriptura is an extra-biblical source. And it's a heresy. there is no place in the bible that says "bible only."
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
This doesn't address my argument. YOU said "According to the scriptures..." You're the one using the scriptures and not an outside source. Sola scriptura is an extra-biblical source. And it's a heresy. there is no place in the bible that says "bible only."

Sure it does. Seem you do not believe it the same as you do not believe the Apostolic teachings which are scripture :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
According to the scriptures the only heresy is to follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God and reject the scriptures. According to the very words of JESUS those who follow the teachings and traditions of men over the Word of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9. This is apostolic teaching *ACTS 5:29. It seems you do not believe it. They are God's Words not mine. I know who I believe and follow and it is not you. :)
The Bible is rather obviously man's words. A combination of bad theology and countless errors makes this rather obvious.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Depends if your a believe or an unbeliever. This is the only thing as to what is obvious IMO :)
No, it depends if one can think rationally or not. I have yet to see a rationally reasoning literalist. There are countless believers that do not make the mistake of reading the Bible literally. In fact everyone picks and chooses which parts of the Bible to follow, some just give really poor excuses for their inconsistency.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Sure it does. Seem you do not believe it the same as you do not believe the Apostolic teachings which are scripture :)
Where? Point. It. Out. Because in my bible, Jesus refers to oral tradition A. Lot. Which indicates that not even Jesus -- or to be more precise, the gospel writers were fans of sola scriptura. In fact, the gospels, themselves, were oral tradition before being written down and canonized, which means that the authorites canonizing the texts were including extra-biblical material in their canon lists.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Where? Point. It. Out. Because in my bible, Jesus refers to oral tradition A. Lot. Which indicates that not even Jesus -- or to be more precise, the gospel writers were fans of sola scriptura. In fact, the gospels, themselves, were oral tradition before being written down and canonized, which means that the authorites canonizing the texts were including extra-biblical material in their canon lists.
The problem with sola scriptura is that a person can interpret the Bible almost any way that they want to. By ignoring logic, morals, history and evidence they can claim almost any odd wacky belief. One problem of the Protestant sects is that too many of them do make that error. It is also why there are so many more Protestant sects.
 
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