Shadow Wolf
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Well, technically, schools probably should stop teaching 32 degrees, as that happens only under certain circumstances and various factors can alter the freezing point.
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What is Happening to Our Children?
- Thread starter Deeje
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I watched a documentary a few years ago that addressed the problems of education in the American system.
I don't know if much has changed....?
"Waiting for Superman".....I found it quite disturbing. Its worth watching if you have the time.
Teaching is a gift....I do not believe that you can learn to be a "good" teacher any more than you can learn to be a "good" parent. The majority of teachers are not there because they genuinely want to educate kids, as much as they want to earn a living. Teaching in today's schools is not for those who lack commitment. The problems of behavioral issues coupled with an inadequately funded and outdated system is failing those who are not natural students.
If kids don't learn the way we teach, then we need to teach them the way they learn. (Borrowed from Michael J. Fox) This all takes money but the video recommended above shows that the education system is a failure factory for all but the brightest....and even then these ones are often held back in a system that is designed as a one size fits all.
Many are choosing to home school these days, but not everyone has the luxury of being able to do so, as both parents often have to work just to pay for basic necessities.
We are breeding tomorrows 'drop outs' because they drop out of school and turn to other means to fill their boredom.....and this situation is not being addressed except perhaps to build more prisons to house the ones who get caught, at taxpayers expense. From memory, there is a graph in the video that explains the cost of housing prisoners compared to the cost of educating children in a more effective way......its staggering.
Two comments. I suspect the public school system is getting exactly the results it wants to achieve. They are as far as they are concerned, a success. I don't know how to go about changing that system except to try to be the teacher I think my kids need.
Second, I've found that throwing money at a problem is no guarantee the problem will get solved. I had a math teacher who enjoyed math. He wanted you to enjoy math to. All he really needed was his attitude and a chalk board.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Parents are afraid of disciplining them nowadays. Fear of government intrusion.
If only all teachers were like you! Unfortunately most kids do not get gifted teachers who often gravitate to private schools for obvious reasons. You get what you pay for.
Good example.
And I agree. My son was having problems with math in High School some years ago, (in Australia) and the teacher was an absolute math wiz...but he couldn't teach it for peanuts. My son's grades were falling so I asked that he be moved to another math class. This teacher was not necessarily a genius, but she could convey concepts clearly and reasonably. His grades improved so much, that he ended up near the top of the class! This indicates to me that so many children fail at school because teachers are not teaching in an engaging way. They fail to communicate on a level that can hold a child's interest as well as showing them how to be successful. If kids just don't get it, its a waste of time to continuing if you left them back at the starting line. Kids want to see that they can be successful and that they are at least as smart as the next kid. No one wants to feel like they are the dumb ones when it is often the teacher's failure, not the child's.
There are learning difficulties that many children find challenging in the public system. My husband was dyslexic and so is my grandson. The school system had not improved to a large degree in two generations when dealing with problems like this. The class just leaves them behind and they end up feeling like they are just stupid. How is this possible in this day and age. Even after my grandson was formerly diagnosed, the programs that they had for these kids was never implemented because they relied on volunteers and these were simply not reliable. How many of these kids just fall through the cracks.....not for lack of intelligence but for lack of expertise and funding.
This goes back to the eighties when the UN tabled a charter (The International Rights of the Child) on the auspices of granting rights to children in third world countries that were being exploited. It all sounded very noble and many countries ratified the charter and it became law. The charter was supposed to protect children from exploitation in mines and other labor intensive businesses where they were used as virtual slaves.....in many countries the sex trade involving children is appalling.....but what do we see today as the outcome? The only children it protected were the spoiled western kids who, once they twigged to what it meant, milked that law for all it was worth. They gave rights to children but without responsibility. The child slaves of the world continue to be exploited but the rich western kids nurtured a "you can't touch me, I have rights" mentality, so that no one can discipline them without fear of punishment themselves. Parents and schools now have a generation of brats who know how to get what they want.
Children could leave a perfectly good home with caring parents, but a child only had to complain that they were being abused and the government in my country would pay them to leave home. They could have ended up in grave danger but the government would not act to protect them....only from parents who loved them but were perhaps saying "no" more often than their child could handle. So many parents had to kidnap their own children and bring them home. A system like that is completely broken.
Who is looking after the children?
This goes back to the eighties when the UN tabled a charter (The International Rights of the Child) on the auspices of granting rights to children in third world countries that were being exploited. It all sounded very noble and many countries ratified the charter and it became law. The charter was supposed to protect children from exploitation in mines and other labor intensive businesses where they were used as virtual slaves.....in many countries the sex trade involving children is appalling.....but what do we see today as the outcome? The only children it protected were the spoiled western kids who, once they twigged to what it meant, milked that law for all it was worth. They gave rights to children but without responsibility. The child slaves of the world continue to be exploited but the rich western kids nurtured a "you can't touch me, I have rights" mentality, so that no one can discipline them without fear of punishment themselves. Parents and schools now have a generation of brats who know how to get what they want.
Children could leave a perfectly good home with caring parents, but a child only had to complain that they were being abused and the government in my country would pay them to leave home. They could have ended up in grave danger but the government would not act to protect them....only from parents who loved them but were perhaps saying "no" more often than their child could handle. So many parents had to kidnap their own children and bring them home. A system like that is completely broken.
Who is looking after the children?
This is a problem throughout history, and unfortunately cannot be resolved by UN resolution, because the UN lacks enforcement powers.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This leads to the kids feeling brazen and bold. Thinking there are no consequences for their actions. There has to be discipline otherwise you're just going to get more of this. Also kids don't have the type of challenges and hurdles to where they feel a proper sense of accomplishment to which nurtures a mentality of why even bother?
Let's face it. Kids were raised a lot better prior to the 80s than they are now. The proof is in the pudding.
Right now the impression I get is we have an apathetic, and megalomania driven generation. God knows what's going to happen when they become adults themselves and have children of their own.
Imagine a world full of Kardashian's types trying to run a country and taking control of policy in the future. We have a preview right now of things to come.
Let's face it. Kids were raised a lot better prior to the 80s than they are now. The proof is in the pudding.
Right now the impression I get is we have an apathetic, and megalomania driven generation. God knows what's going to happen when they become adults themselves and have children of their own.
Imagine a world full of Kardashian's types trying to run a country and taking control of policy in the future. We have a preview right now of things to come.
"U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child 1989
The Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) is the most comprehensive document on the rights of children.[7] Based purely on the number of substantive rights it sets forth, as distinct from implementation measures, it is the longest U.N. human rights treaty in force and unusual in that it not only addresses the granting and implementation of rights in peacetime, but also the treatment of children in situations of armed conflict. The CRC is also significant because it enshrines, “for the first time in binding international law, the principles upon which adoption is based, viewed from the child’s perspective.”[8] The CRC is primarily concerned with four aspects of children’s rights (“the four ‘P’s”): participation by children in decisions affecting them; protection of children against discrimination and all forms of neglect and exploitation; prevention of harm to them; and provision of assistance to children for their basic needs.[9] For the purposes of the CRC, a child is defined as “every human being below the age of eighteen years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier” (article 1)."
Children's Rights: International Laws | Law Library of Congress
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Father
Devourer of Truth
that's actually wrong. the best education system on earth goes to South Korea first then Japan. most who hold much wealth and power don't even have a degree. true genius needs not any paper to register. I've seen high school dropouts do better than those with doctorates. our success is not from our education system. it was the best but that was over 100 years ago.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
If you get a chance, study where the numbers actually come from in regards to the standardized testing in Japan. Now I can't speak for SK since I've not done any research on them.
Standardized tests only reflect certain types of learning, and I was involved in the formation of the standardized testing system first used here in Michigan but as one who was very upset as to how it was being set up and handled. At one point, I was worried about getting kicked out of one large meeting we had because I kept showing inconsistencies with how to answer some of the questions, and finally a couple of others took up that yoke. I also had a confrontation with the director of the test at the state level, pointing out that the scoring of the test they devised was terrible. I lost, but after implementing the test for several years here, they finally dropped it.
As I mentioned before, in some areas we do indeed lag behind, such as engineering, but the main reason why that's true in that field is that relatively few Americans coming out of high school and going into it. About 15 years ago, I was at a graduation ceremony at one of our engineering universities here in Michigan, and when it come to ph.d.'s graduating, the names were probably more than 80% Asian, and I was told that most of the students were exchange students from China.
Now, if our educational system is supposedly so terrible, then why are we attracting so many foreign exchange students from Asia and other locations to go to our universities? [btw, that has fallen off over the last year, but it appears that it's largely due to the violence here and because of Trump]