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What is Karma?

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
What goes around comes around:
YouTube - Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around... Comes Around
(there's nothing wrong with me. Justin Timberlake is a cool sort of guy...)

In other words, if you are nice, good things will happen to you. If you are a dick, bad things will happen to you. Let's say you cheated on your math test. (I guess the karma people don't like cheating) so maybe they'll make you get hit by a car later that week.

No. You'll suck at math, and possibly fail the course.

Let's say you give money to charity; the karma people like this, so you'll maybe later get a free pizza from a guy on the street!

No. You'll feel good. Giving is a great feeling.

And he didn't even do anything nasty to it! That happened to me, except I hadn't given to charity... I hope he didn't do anything nasty to it...

Buying from a guy off the street is bad karma, anyway, because it's very likely what you got is... not very healthy.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
By the way... I'm just repeating what other people told me. I don't belive in karma and have never done any research on it... I guess in a way karma could happen in a manner such as if you're a dick to everyone, no one will like you and people will be more likely to do mean things back to you... Similarly, if you are nice, people will like you and will be more likely to do favors for you. SO that's like getting back what you give out...

That's precisely what Karma is.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I found that growing up with the concept of karma was very helpful to my personal development. I was a really naughty kid. I lied a lot, I liked to steal from other kids and tease and so on (I'm talking very young, ie/ age 4-10). The idea of karma at first stops you from doing bad things because you don't want bad things to happen to you. But in doing so, your mind processes the action and the consequences. You are forced to think about those consequences and also the experience of the victim (your future self). This time taken to think about the actions helped me to develop a strong sense of empathy. I became strongly moralistic before most kids seemed to. For that I am greatful for being brought up with the concept of karma.

I see the effects of karma all the time. It might not be a complete reality, as described in eastern philosophy, but there is certainly something to it. But I think that our own natural sense of conscience and concepts of right and wrong influence the course of reactions to the self. A person who has a consciousness that leads them to stealing or harming others will attract negativity into their life. A person who if loving and giving will attract positivity into their life. Of course a lot of crap can happen to a good person and good happen to bad people. But in the end, the 'bad' people are usually less happy or content than the 'good' people. Our consciousness plays a large role in our experiences and perceptions and also dictate the sort of actions we make.

Karma doesn't seem too farfetched to me, but it is indeed just a possibility to me rather than somethign I claim to know as being a reality.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friends,
Personally would put it similar to what quantum physics would say about the reaction to maybe throwing a ball?
Though am not sure as have not studied the subject but to my understanding if a ball is thrown at the wall in front then the ball comes back with equal force [laws of physics] but if the other forces are studied like the molecules in the air through which the ball travels am sure there are many activities that happen which are unseen to the naked eye and these molecules collide with others around them and a chain reaction takes place and rebounds back to the starting point. It should be akin to vibrations that take place when one shouts when surrounded by hills. You shout ONCE but the vibrations happen many times over. Karma or action brings about similar results.

The idea to understand karma is not that one does good to attract good as again would like to state that there is nothing as good or bad. They are just two ends of the same pole and it is the perception through one's mind that it is labelled good or bad.
The idea is to transcend both good and bad. One should be able to perform an action which does not return.
The obvious question is *How is such action possible?*. It is possible only at the consciousness level and when the doer and the deed becomes one.
Love & rgds
 

katiafish

consciousness incarnate
Friends,
Personally would put it similar to what quantum physics would say about the reaction to maybe throwing a ball?
Though am not sure as have not studied the subject but to my understanding if a ball is thrown at the wall in front then the ball comes back with equal force [laws of physics] but if the other forces are studied like the molecules in the air through which the ball travels am sure there are many activities that happen which are unseen to the naked eye and these molecules collide with others around them and a chain reaction takes place and rebounds back to the starting point. It should be akin to vibrations that take place when one shouts when surrounded by hills. You shout ONCE but the vibrations happen many times over. Karma or action brings about similar results.

The idea to understand karma is not that one does good to attract good as again would like to state that there is nothing as good or bad. They are just two ends of the same pole and it is the perception through one's mind that it is labelled good or bad.
The idea is to transcend both good and bad. One should be able to perform an action which does not return.
The obvious question is *How is such action possible?*. It is possible only at the consciousness level and when the doer and the deed becomes one.
Love & rgds

Totally agree with that. Good and bad are dualistic perception of the egomind. I believe that one must reach the state of integrated "innocence", where there is no choice anymore, no separation between good and bad, just the state of awareness..

As above so is below, there is no inferior there is no superior, all is One.
 

nameless

The Creator
Every thought carries energy, and if a negative thought is pointed towards someone, the negative energy would dissolve in him and brings him bad effect. Doing harm to others would make them to think negatively.

theintentionexperiment - a number of experiments is conducted to test capablity of mindpower.
 
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chinu

chinu
Please explain what karma is. Someone was talking of good and bad karma recently. But how could that be possible?

Both good and bad karmas (deeds) are the reason of our existance,

Good karmas are like Net made of gold to trap "Soul"
Bad karmas are like Net made of Iron to trap "Soul"

Truely the one who exist is bunch of karmas.

_/\_
Chinu
 

reve

Member
Karma is much more than the above in the real sense and needs to be seen in context. Ancient Egyptians had the ka, your spirit born fully formed when you are born a baby. This is who you really are when you take the whole of your life into account. If you think of say Moses, this is who we mean, his ka, the whole of his life and much more importantly its influence on so many more lives to come. Your ka, or what you think of as 'me', is constructed by your actions but also your thoughts throughout your life. A karmic yogi is one who devotes this life to service to others. It is the highest form of yoga. This recharges the ka. But you are born with this thing for company. In theory it is much more powerful than you but one day you will wrestle with it. The Egyptian hieroglyph is of two arms raised. There is in India, where the word karma originates, the God Kama. And you cannot separate this word from the pantheon tales. Kalima and her sister Lakshmi. One incorrectly described as evil because she wears skulls (lives) round her neck. The other the loving one who is charitable and comes into your home at Diwali bestowing food and money. So then we find the twin thing illustrated in pantheons and the bible (eg Cain Abel, Esau and wrestling one Jacob). The good and the bad. Or the tempting and the correcting influences we are born with. The aim is to 'overcome' in your lifetime (to the one who overcomes is given....(everything basically - power) and this is done by these karmic actions. Thus you will find many saintly people serving their communities in a very discreet and humble way lest they attract reward in this life. The hidden ones. So karma when we discuss it means the battle with the gods for the right to self government and it has a planetary scale. Most sages consider the daily slaughter and holocaust of animals in the world to be creating a vast karmic debt which may never be repaid by our eventual service (or slavery) to Nature. Something which is abhorrent to most humans today. You cannot kid your own twin 'karmic' angels. They know your every thought and action and will 'testify' against you at the end when your 'heart' or karmic actions are weighed against the feather of truth. Good luck - if we all start now we might just get the interest payments down.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
To me karma is not something much different then the whole itself. When you examine all the laws and theories of karma they all put forth that karma is simply action. When you act it effects something, for good or bad. That is karma. Likewise, when someone acts and it effects you, that is karma. Everything is acting upon each other, hence karma is much more then cause and effect, it's something that ties all things together.
 

reve

Member
I should add that on a planetary scale the 'spirits or ka's' of the human race are a male and female angel identified with 'God' who appears to have long white hair and a beard, and Lucifer, or Venus, the morning star and bringer of light. It was really Venus (or Eve) who tempted Adam away from the influence of 'God' and introduced him to the joys of dining like the gods (us) on the fruits of the Tree of Life (meat), which would have horrified our vegetarian ancestors and has led to the destruction of the worlds forest and habitats. And also this massive karmic debt. But it is not Eve's fault. Perhaps the serpent showed her a MacDonalds in a future life. The karmic result of her actions.
 
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