What is Resurrection of the dead?

[stvdv]

I do not need it now, I would not need it when I am one billion.

Of course you don't need it
But would you not be a bit curious?

 

[stvdv]

And by dead perhaps it is meant uneducated and actively ignoring information from fear of being wrong

That could be true also
Though, as you mentioned "everyone can google at that time if it happens"

I agree, that it can be meant figuratively. It won't be the first one in the Bible. And it could mean different things too. Many layers of understanding and interpretation

I enjoy new input into my system

Maybe "dead" means "not experiencing the Spiritual world", only being focused on the material world

 

[Fool]

Different people have different views of this. Sometimes it comes down to what their church teaches. Other times it is what they imagine. Sometimes it is what they interpret from scripture for themselves. Some have a revelation directly. There are scripture stories of resurrections. In one of them Jesus appears to have a body that doesn't work like ours. Some believe that we are resurrected in a better body. Others believe it means sometime else. One person told me that it means we are resurrected in a body that doesn't tempt us to sin.

literally reincarnation

the spirit takes possession of the temple body at birth
it is entombed in a grave, the earth.

some do not wake up from identifying with the grave. love is as strong as death.
some will wake up, some will not.

spirit gives birth to spirit
flesh gives birth to flesh.

 

[stvdv]

There are plenty of false things being proposed as knowledge also. People seem to like things from their own imagination instead of a more literal reading. The trouble with a non literal reading is that we can twist the scripture to say anything that we imagine it might mean.

There are many symbolic verses. How to know for sure these verses are meant literally? Or does the Bible tell us when it is meant literal or not?

 

[Colt]

What exactly is Resurrection of the dead before the day of Judgement?

Is it a physical raising of the dead bodies from their earthly graves?

Or is it an etherial raising, like the soul or astral body raised from deep slumber at the time of judgement?

I'm a little confused because i came across an article which says it is an etherial raising and not a physical one.
Then there are other articles which says its actually a physical raising of all flesh bodies from their earthly graves.

Does this mean different christian denominations have different interpretations of it?

In my theology the material body returns to the dust. The saved reawaken in a "new form" on the Mansion worlds. The transcripts of our former life, our "personality" and our soul are all downloaded like software into the new body.

 

[Brickjectivity]

If we are going to be resurrected in a better body (as believed by some Christians, like you just said) then do you think we will use that special body here on earth, after being raised from our earthly graves? or are we going to have such a body in heaven only?

Since currently your religion is Advaita Vedanta I will answer your if-then question as logically as possible within the constraints you have just given and using the canon that I am familiar with: If people are resurrected in new and better bodies, then my understanding of the Christian scriptures leads me to believe it will be on this planet for the purpose of living here but in a superior way. This does not mean that I believe we will be resurrected into new bodies but only that if we are then that seems to be what the reason is. Given that constraint (new better bodies) it is to live here (on this planet) in peace. I think. Regardless of what kind of resurrection, generally speaking there is eventually to be peace on Earth whether or not there is physical resurrection.

Or lets suppose there are other worlds. Even then, Jesus instructs his followers to pray for peace on earth which at least refers to Israel if not the entire planet; and if Israel, while harmless and weaponless, is at peace then surely the rest of the world will be. Otherwise it will be troubled by the one remaining warlike nation -- just as always. Or if Jesus refers to the planet then the result is the same: peace on this planet.

But supposing that when Jesus prays for peace on Earth he refers not to a specific nation but to some other version of Israel as is frequently claimed by various people. Well, even in that case said group will be harmless and weaponless; and if they exist in that state then the world must be peaceful enough for them to do so. This implies that if we are resurrected into new bodies or not, that there must be peace.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What exactly is Resurrection of the dead before the day of Judgement?

Is it a physical raising of the dead bodies from their earthly graves?

Or is it an etherial raising, like the soul or astral body raised from deep slumber at the time of judgement?

I'm a little confused because i came across an article which says it is an etherial raising and not a physical one.
Then there are other articles which says its actually a physical raising of all flesh bodies from their earthly graves.

Does this mean different christian denominations have different interpretations of it?

Physical resurrection. Everyone's body and soul will eventually be reunited. Christ was just the first to experience this.

 

[InChrist]

If we are going to be resurrected in a better body (as believed by some Christians, like you just said) then do you think we will use that special body here on earth, after being raised from our earthly graves? or are we going to have such a body in heaven only?

I believe, according to the biblical scriptures, those who have placed their faith in Christ will have an eternal, glorified body as He does. It will be their own physical body, but changed to a new, eternal non-corruptible body...
So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.
(1 Corinthians 15:42).

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
(1 Corinthians 15:52-53)

 

[Brickjectivity]

literally reincarnation

the spirit takes possession of the temple body at birth
it is entombed in a grave, the earth.

some do not wake up from identifying with the grave. love is as strong as death.
some will wake up, some will not.

spirit gives birth to spirit
flesh gives birth to flesh.

Is that Mystical Christianity? There are mystical Christians. This is one of the views that I have not mentioned.

 

[AdamjEdgar]

Seventh, any demand that the empty tomb must be believed, is a modern fundamentalist statement that is open to ridicule, as an "empty faith", because Christians do not believe in an empty tomb, but in a living Jesus Christ. However, even if the empty tomb proves to be legendary in nature, it remains indispensable to the Church's Easter faith, because it is the traditional narrative used by the Church tradition to proclaim the resurrection appearances of Jesus.

I would categorically state that the empty tomb is a foundation doctrine of all Christianity.

Luke 24:12 and almost an entire chapter of John 20 (half of which specifically deals with the empty tomb)
I think it absurd that non Christians are quite willing to accept that individuals such as Socrates existed (even though there is strong evidence to suggest he is simply a construct in Plato stories), here we have numerous individuals who wrote extensively first hand accounts of Jesus life, death and resurrection...I think it very narrow minded, and naive in fact, to ignore the historicity of the man when it is plainly obvious he really did exist. I think if it were a lie, the inconsistencies from such a wide variety of writers predating and post Jesus would soon shine through, however this is not the case...the consistency is very very well supported across the spectrum of writings (even outside the bible)

Luke 24:12 Peter, however, got up and ran to the tomb. And after bending down and seeing only the linen cloths, he went away, wondering to himself what had happened.

John 20: 1Early on the first day of the week,a while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. 2So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved. “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb,” she said, “and we do not know where they have put Him!”3Then Peter and the other disciple set out for the tomb. 4The two were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5He bent down and looked in at the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in.6Simon Peter arrived just after him. He entered the tomb and saw the linen cloths lying there. 7The clothb that had been around Jesus’ head was rolled up, lying separate from the linen cloths. 8Then the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went in. And he saw and believed. 9For they still did not understand from the Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.Mark 16:9–11)

10Then the disciples returned to their homes. 11But Mary stood outside the tomb weeping. And as she wept, she bent down to look into the tomb, 12and she saw two angels in white sitting where the body of Jesus had lain, one at the head and the other at the feet.13“Woman, why are you weeping?” they asked.

“Because they have taken my Lord away,” she said, “and I do not know where they have put Him.”14When she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there; but she did not recognize that it was Jesus.15“Woman, why are you weeping?” Jesus asked. “Whom are you seeking?”

Thinking He was the gardener, she said, “Sir, if you have carried Him off, tell me where you have put Him, and I will get Him.”16Jesus said to her, “Mary.”

She turned and said to Him in Hebrew,c “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”).​

 

[AdamjEdgar]

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

I think an interesting text...i am not convinced that immortality means exactly what we think it does. Clearly Adam and Eve ate of the tree of life whilst in the garden of Eden, and they were banished from accessing both the garden and specifically that tree in Genesis 3

22Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever..."23Therefore the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24So He drove out the man and stationed cherubim on the east side of the Garden of Eden, along with a whirling sword of flame to guard the way to the tree of life.
​

We also have Jesus being resurrected with the scars he obtained in his death...remember the statement on the day of his ascension...

Acts: 9After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight. 10They were looking intently into the sky as He was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”​

Jesus will retain the "hypostatic union" for all eternity. This is one thing in church doctrines that is often confused...many confuse the explanation of this union to make the claim that prior to the cross, Jesus was not God. In fact it forms an important part of the chain of evidence that God became man and that as part of the incarnation, our creator gave up his divine body to save us from ourselves (not the other way around as Arians claim).

This is an incredibly powerful example of what He has done...God has lowered Himself to that of the worst of his own creation and will remain in that state (hypostatic union) permanently as a witness and reminder of what sin has done.

It suggests to me that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil will be replaced in the future with the scars that Jesus bares on his person...those will be a constant reminder of the consequences of disobedience (which is exactly what sin is btw....disobedience of the law)

 

[Aupmanyav]

Of course you don't need it
But would you not be a bit curious?

When I know that I will be a billion, why should I be curious? One is curious when one does not know.

 

[stvdv]

When I know that I will be a billion, why should I be curious? One is curious when one does not know.

 

[Brian2]

Do you think christians believe in these two (Sheol and Hades) or do they only believe in the hell (with the lake of fire where awaits eternal torment)?

Sheol and Hades are the same place and Christians who have done a bit of study of the Bible probably know of that place. Some are no doubt kept in the dark by faulty translations and teaching that does not specifically point out the Biblical meanings of things.
In hades/sheol there are meant to be different regions where some are in discomfort and others in another region are in comfort.
The lake of fire is probably Gehenna where destruction of the body and soul happens. In my opinion this does not mean that people will be tormented forever however. I think the torment is a temporary thing until those there have been destroyed. Other Christians have different opinions on that however.

 

[Brian2]

There are many symbolic verses. How to know for sure these verses are meant literally? Or does the Bible tell us when it is meant literal or not?

Some parts of the Bible are meant to be more symbolic than others. Revelation, the Book of Daniel, various poetry etc but I find that to be literal is best until it proves itself to be a wrong approach.

 

[Clara Tea]

What exactly is Resurrection of the dead before the day of Judgement?

Is it a physical raising of the dead bodies from their earthly graves?

Or is it an etherial raising, like the soul or astral body raised from deep slumber at the time of judgement?

I'm a little confused because i came across an article which says it is an etherial raising and not a physical one.
Then there are other articles which says its actually a physical raising of all flesh bodies from their earthly graves.

Does this mean different christian denominations have different interpretations of it?

Any murderer could grumble that once they plant someone, they should stay planted.

 

[Clara Tea]

Some parts of the Bible are meant to be more symbolic than others. Revelation, the Book of Daniel, various poetry etc but I find that to be literal is best until it proves itself to be a wrong approach.

Revelation is symbolic because it is derived psychicly. Psychic signals are processed through parts of the brain that process normal stimuli. So, you might visually see a psychic vision, but you are not using your eyes to see it. As a result, psychic visions must be interpreted. Those who have psychic visions are used to interpreting them, so they can decode their meaning.

 

[Clara Tea]

That could be true also
Though, as you mentioned "everyone can google at that time if it happens"

I agree, that it can be meant figuratively. It won't be the first one in the Bible. And it could mean different things too. Many layers of understanding and interpretation


Maybe "dead" means "not experiencing the Spiritual world", only being focused on the material world

Dead puppies aren't much fun. . . they don't come when you call them.

 

[Brian2]

Dead puppies aren't much fun. . . they don't come when you call them.

But they do stay when you tell them to.

 

[Brian2]

Here you mention a very interesting fact

Jesus is the perfection Christians believe
So, if Jesus gets back His old body
My guess is that we get that too
(Jesus tells us to live like Him)

Not really something to look forward to

Well it's a transformed body that is immortal and if Jesus is anything to go by, can do things that a normal body cannot.