zippo9211989
New Member
Science is all facts and no explanation.
Religion is all explanation with no facts.
What do you think?
Religion is all explanation with no facts.
What do you think?
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what is science compared to religion
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angellous_evangellous
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Cute but useless.
Atomist
I love you.
See: Scientific Theory
zippo9211989
New Member
But science does not explain the source of where everything comes from, sure theres the big bang but what put the materials there in the first place.
Skwim
Veteran Member
I think it's a stupid remark.
You're assuming a "what" did the "putting" and that there was a "first."
Scientific understanding already hints at the possibility that the universe has always existed in some form with the laws of thermodynamics: there are no known processes to create or destroy energy.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
A common misunderstanding. Try to look at science as a verb rather than a noun - not a thing that exists but something people do (grammatically it can be both of course but this is just about perception of the concept).
"Science" cant know anything - only people know things. "Science" can only explain what people have been so far capable of understanding by scientific method - it's really people explaining it. The amount of stuff we are able to explain and understand is constantly growing though, as people continue to use scientific method to study things.
It is true that we don't know exactly how the universe came to be but there are plenty of things we do know which were discovered via scientific method and if we ever do find out the answer to that question, scientific method is almost certainly going to be the means we achieve it.
Smoke
Done here.
Neither does religion.
I can't see how having no explanation is any worse than having a false explanation, anyway.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
It seems the greater somebody's need for reasons, the less those reasons need to be reasonable.
Atomist
I love you.
Really? You have an explanation on where God came from? If you're going to say god always existed... well then... that's a cool cop out, but now an explanation. Why does god always exist instead of comeing into existence? If your response to that is because otherwise we'd go in an infinite regression. Can't I just say the same about the universe? IE the universe always existed and no the big bang was not the cause of the universe.
That line of reasoning doesn't really explain everything... lest you concede that science can explain everything... which defeats the whole purpose your argument.
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Octavia156
OTO/EGC
Venatoris
Active Member
For that matter, one theory about the expansion of the universe is that eventually gravitational pull will slow the rate of expansion until it stops and begins to draw inward on itself, in effect creating another big bang. Who can say that the big bang and the universe we live in, is in fact the first to have occurred? I hope that makes sense, it's hard to tell when I'm drunk at 3:30 in the afternoon.
No. Science uses the facts to formulate an explanation. That's what a theory is.
I think that can be a reasonable assumption... if you're talking about the metaphysical and mythological aspects of religion.
I think that science and religion can't really be compared, as they're two completely different entities.
Why couldn't it have always been there?
gnostic
The Lost One
zippo9211989 said:
What you say about science is absolute rot.
What do you think "theory" is, in science?
Theory is explanation. The theory is used to explain the facts, as well as explaining the WHATs and WHYs. These facts may be observations, evidences, the end results of measurement or calculation, which may or may not support the theory.
Ungweliante
Devotional ecstatic
Is reality binary, or is that just our way of conceptualizing it? 
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Science = How
Religion = Why
Religion = Why
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
That's not really true is it? After all, so many "why" questions posed to the religious get answers along the lines of "We can't know the mind of God".
Science is about how and why (and what, who, where, when...). You can't really separate these things anyway - learning how can help understand why and vice-versa. Science is nothing more than a general method for formally establishing such things.
Religion on the other hand means a structured system of belief and practice. I can include statements about why and how things are as they are, it can even include a desire to study and learn (with scientific method or otherwise) but not of that is fundamental to the definition of religion.
Science and religion are not opposite sides of the same coin. They're not even both coins. They are two entirely separate terms about entirely separate concepts and have no place being compared and contrasted in this way.