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What is sexually immoral?

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Of course on the flip side they can be be as "immoral" as they want as long as they're not violating the rights of anyone else in the process. Personal freedom & personal responsibility, etc.

Yeah. There's a world of difference between wise morality and wise law.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend tomspug,

Well, it doesn't really sound like you believe in morality at all. We believe in restrictions on violence (violence that doesn't cause serious harm is permitted, whie violence that causes significant harm isn't). Why wouldn't this logic apply to every aspect of life, including sex?

Again, nothing is right or wrong as the journey is all about consciousness.
How conscious you are. Consciousness itself gives you an instant feedback about right and wrong about moral/immoral and all such dualities. Consciousness in fact transcends the duality.

Kindly do not miss the point this time, atleast.
Love & rgds
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Friend tomspug,



Again, nothing is right or wrong as the journey is all about consciousness.
How conscious you are. Consciousness itself gives you an instant feedback about right and wrong about moral/immoral and all such dualities. Consciousness in fact transcends the duality.

Kindly do not miss the point this time, atleast.
Love & rgds

No right or wrong? Okay, but if someone were to kick in your front door and take a baseball to you or someone you loved you would probably have a new found idea of right or wrong fairly quick.
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
I find that when having group sex it is rude and sexually immoral to move on to a new partner until everyone has finished with the first one....:D
It is sexually immoral to have sex with your best friends partner unless you allow them to have sex with your partner....;)
It is definitely sexually immoral to marry someone without having sexual relations before the ceremony, what if they leave the cap off the toothpaste, or God forbid, eat peanut butter and crackers in bed? :eek:

To be quite serious I think there is a time and place for everything and fondling or feeling around on each other in public is not using good moral standards....Even though it may feel good...
 
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ranjana

Active Member
No right or wrong? Okay, but if someone were to kick in your front door and take a baseball to you or someone you loved you would probably have a new found idea of right or wrong fairly quick.

can i offer my 0.02?

if consciousness guides our actions it then shines a light that illuminates what is 'right' and 'wrong' without thinking about it. so the person who took to violence in your example is not being led by consciousness as it is very dim. s/he is living pretty fully in an illusion that serves no one. but a conscious being confonted with this scenario would do what is appropriate, and act with clarity.

if a dog comes at you attacking, you dont just let it attack you. it has less to do with what is 'right' and 'wrong' but appropriate to the situation.

So with sex, if people act with clarity and self-awareness, then what is the problem? only problems arise without this awareness.

I am seriously enjoying WIMN's responses!!! Is your brain short circuiting?? Or are you on a handheld?? :drunk:Whatever is going on, is super cute!!!
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend FH,

No right or wrong? Okay, but if someone were to kick in your front door and take a baseball to you or someone you loved you would probably have a new found idea of right or wrong fairly quick.

You already have picturised some situation in your mind. Naturally one only REACTS from the mind. RESPONSE comes from consciousness. Each situation decides its response at the moment not before of after as the way the mind functions.
Friend ranjana has already offered her response to your post.
Would like to add that whatever happens is a result of past karma how your respond takes care of the future karma.
Love & rgds
 

Scott C.

Just one guy
Obviously, there are moral boundaries to everything (unless you believe otherwise), but our current society DOES create moral boundaries for every aspect of our lives, even sexuality.

What would you yourself deem "inappropriate" sexual behavior in public? What would you deem "immoral" sexual behavior, no matter what?

I believe sex is only moral when done between a man and woman who are married to each other. When married, it needs to be done with mutual consent, respect, and love.

This means that pre-marital sex, extra-marital sex, rape, incest, sexual abuse of a spouse, pornography, masturbation, polygamy. homosexuality, sex with animals, and lust are all sexually immoral. Men and women should dress modestly in a way to not promote sexual immorality or sexual thought.

By sex, I mean any physical contact that arouses one sexually. Holding hands, a simple hug, or a simple kiss are not sex. If physical contact crosses the line from simple physical affection to passion, then it's probably crossed over into sexual immorality.

I don't know that there is an age gap at which marriage becomes immoral. For example, it's not sexually immoral for a 25 year old woman to marry a 55 year old man. Now if the 55 year old leaves his wife of 30 years, without good cause, to marry a beautiful 25 year old, that's another issue and is immoral.

I'm not sure what to think about what age is too young to marry, from a moral viewpoint. My mom was 16 when she married my dad who was 19. That was young and most would say today that it's not a good idea, but it's not sexually immoral. (They have now been married over 50 years).

Sexual immorality comes in lots of hues and shades. Some sins are greater than others. For example, rape or incest are obviously worse than sex between consenting non-married adults.

I believe that sexual immorality is one of the greatest problems facing the world today. I know there are wars, drugs, gangs, and violence on the streets. I know there are a lot of problems in society which are very serious. I believe that sexual immorality ranks up there among the most serious problems.

Sexual immorality often leads to disease, unwanted pregnancy, abortion, low self esteem, broken families, broken hearts, and fatherless children. This can lead to dysfunctional homes where children are not properly taught and have no good role model. This can lead to drug use, gang participation, violence, disrespect for women, and more sexual immorality. And the cycle goes on and on and on.
 
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tomspug

Absorbant
I believe sex is only moral when done between a man and woman who are married to each other. When married, it needs to be done with mutual consent, respect, and love.

This means that pre-marital sex, extra-marital sex, rape, incest, sexual abuse of a spouse, pornography, masturbation, polygamy. homosexuality, sex with animals, and lust are all sexually immoral. Men and women should dress modestly in a way to not promote sexual immorality or sexual thought.

By sex, I mean any physical contact that arouses one sexually. Holding hands, a simple hug, or a simple kiss are not sex. If physical contact crosses the line from simple physical affection to passion, then it's probably crossed over into sexual immorality.

I don't know that there is an age gap at which marriage becomes immoral. For example, it's not sexually immoral for a 25 year old woman to marry a 55 year old man. Now if the 55 year old leaves his wife of 30 years, without good cause, to marry a beautiful 25 year old, that's another issue and is immoral.

I'm not sure what to think about what age is too young to marry, from a moral viewpoint. My mom was 16 when she married my dad who was 19. That was young and most would say today that it's not a good idea, but it's not sexually immoral. (They have now been married over 50 years).

Sexual immorality comes in lots of hues and shades. Some sins are greater than others. For example, rape or incest are obviously worse than sex between consenting non-married adults.

I believe that sexual immorality is one of the greatest problems facing the world today. I know there are wars, drugs, gangs, and violence on the streets. I know there are a lot of problems in society which are very serious. I believe that sexual immorality ranks up there among the most serious problems.

Sexual immorality often leads to disease, unwanted pregnancy, abortion, low self esteem, broken families, broken hearts, and fatherless children. This can lead to dysfunctional homes where children are not properly taught and have no good role model. This can lead to drug use, gang participation, violence, disrespect for women, and more sexual immorality. And the cycle goes on and on and on.
Wouldn't you consider someone that uses another person for sex and then leaves them like a used piece of trash immoral? And I understand that marriage is a great way to protect the sacredness of sex, but is it really free from corruption? People get married, cheat on their spouses, develop sexual habits, etc.

I think it's silly to limit sexual immorality to specific acts rather than basing immorality on the context, intentions, ramifications of those acts, like others have said.
 

Jeremy Mason

Well-Known Member
Obviously, there are moral boundaries to everything (unless you believe otherwise), but our current society DOES create moral boundaries for every aspect of our lives, even sexuality.

What would you yourself deem "inappropriate" sexual behavior in public? What would you deem "immoral" sexual behavior, no matter what?

It's sexually immoral to forbid priests the right to have a spouse and the sex that comes with that relationship.
 

Scott C.

Just one guy
Wouldn't you consider someone that uses another person for sex and then leaves them like a used piece of trash immoral? And I understand that marriage is a great way to protect the sacredness of sex, but is it really free from corruption? People get married, cheat on their spouses, develop sexual habits, etc.

I think it's silly to limit sexual immorality to specific acts rather than basing immorality on the context, intentions, ramifications of those acts, like others have said.

While I would agree that the context and intentions of sexual acts outside of marriage make a difference on the magnitude of the sin, it remains a sin, nonetheless. (I'm not sure if you're suggesting that sex outside of marriage is ok, given the right intentions, circumstances, or context).

If a person has no sex outside of marriage and is faithful to the marriage partner in a loving and caring marriage, there's no room for the example you give of using a person for sex and then leaving them as a used piece of trash. I'm confused as to why you think my definition of sexual morality leaves room for such abuse.
 
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Friend FH,



You already have picturised some situation in your mind. Naturally one only REACTS from the mind. RESPONSE comes from consciousness. Each situation decides its response at the moment not before of after as the way the mind functions.
Friend ranjana has already offered her response to your post.
Would like to add that whatever happens is a result of past karma how your respond takes care of the future karma.
Love & rgds

Doesn't karma itself require a sense of good vs. bad? If an action accumulates negative karma, then it must be bad. If an action accumulates positive karma, then it must be good.
 
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