What is the best argument for an atheist?

[Autodidact]

It's very obvious you don't see it.
Why?
You have a set definition of God and evidence that you refuse to change.
Why is that?

What's your definition, Strike?

 

[Autodidact]

1. Sure.
2. Sure.
3. Sure.

Now what that all means, I'm not sure yet. But you seem to be. Mind telling me what you mean by those questions?

Wait a minute, are you saying that you're completely nuts?

 

[Gloone]

I would add that. It really doesn't matter if one Christian or a few says something like. "Well I don't know what "faith" is or what "belief" is. I just believe in this undefined, vaguely referenced thing and I use the word "God" for this thing. And I have no empirical evidence for it." There are hundreds of millions of other Christians to go beyond that. To believe in the Christian deity is not simply to have some idea. It makes statements about how the universe works, about human society, morality and many other subjects. For everything that Christianity or any other religion for that matter wishes to impose on the world. Asking for empirical evidence of it's wide reaching wild claims is not only a good thing. It is a NECESSARY thing.

you need to stop living in the -4-3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 century.

 

[Autodidact]

Oh.
So why does evidence need to be 'testable and falsified' or in other words empirical, in order to be evidence?

Because that's how he's defining evidence.

 

[Runewolf1973]

I guess science can make the world perfect too right?
So since people feel science can explain the existence of everything then is it plausible to rule out divine intervention as well?

I believe it is plausible to rule out divine intervention. I don't concern myself with "perfection", that is merely a human perception.

 

[Gloone]

God is an atheist. Thus, being an athiest is truly living as "the image of god." I would say the best argument for being an atheist is the over-abundance of religious nonsense in the world. And, of course, it would depend on whether or not such an argument was ment to be pro-active. For instance, the best tool for shearing sheep is the Bible. I know some Bible; not only do the JWs not bother me, they don't even bother my general vicinity... for myself, I say (generally) I ain't got no problem with god, I got a problem with your god... not in so many words, of course.

You won't get to far reading the bible like that either.

 

[Gloone]

I believe it is plausible to rule out divine intervention. I don't concern myself with "perfection", that is merely a human perception.

So long as it benefits you then you don't care about anyone else?

 

[ButTheCatCameBack]

you need to stop living in the -4-3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 century.

Make a coherent post.

 

[Gloone]

Make a coherent post.

You need to stop living in the -4th, -3rd, -2nd, -1st, 0, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th century. Want me to spell the numbers out for you too?

 

[ButTheCatCameBack]

You need to stop living in the -4th, -3rd, -2nd, -1st, 0, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th century. Want me to spell the numbers out for you too?

You're post has nothing to do with the one you quoted and I don't tolerate trolls. So you're going to go to the Troll Pen now.

 

[Runewolf1973]

So long as it benefits you then you don't care about anyone else?

That is not what I said.

 

[Wotan]

You won't get to far reading the bible like that either.

And this is a problem because . . . ?

 

[St Giordano Bruno]

Lisbon 1st Nov 1755 was a great earthquake on one of the holiest days on the Christian calendar. Churches and Cathedrals were packed to capacity which is a very dangerous place to be in the event of a magnitude 9 earthquake. It initiated the new science of seismology and other acts of nature such as lighting which could be better explained naturalistically as just an act of nature rather than supernaturally as an act of God. It spawned a new era of enlightenment and gave much fertile ground for atheism. After that, especially in Europe atheism was no longer a dangerous accusation which required denial. People were at last free to proclaim their atheistic beliefs without fear of religious persecution.

 

[Runewolf1973]

You need to stop living in the -4th, -3rd, -2nd, -1st, 0, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th century. Want me to spell the numbers out for you too?

Are you even capable of having a real discussion, or are you only good at re-wording what other people have to say?

 

[Gloone]

You're post has nothing to do with the one you quoted and I don't tolerate trolls. So you're going to go to the Troll Pen now.

:clap I'm impressed, and you were talking about religion enforcing things on people and now you want to call others trolls and say they belong in cages.

 

[ButTheCatCameBack]

Are you even capable of having a real discussion, or are you only good at re-wording what other people have to say?

I'm going to guess that it's a no.

 

[Gloone]

I'm going to guess that it's a no.

Way to ruin the debate. Every time a good debate gets going someone has to ruin it with there silly 3rd grade comments.

 

[Wotan]

Way to ruin the debate. Every time a good debate gets going someone has to ruin it with there silly 3rd grade comments.

Yeah, why do you do that?

 

[ButTheCatCameBack]

What's your definition, Strike?

Hopefully strike will provide definitions so they may be compared to the actual definitions for at least "belief" and "evidence."

 

[Father Heathen]

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