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What is the Bibles reasoning for the world we know of today?

For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known about God is clearly evident among them, for God made it clear to them. 20 For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable. 21 For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their senseless hearts became darkened. 22 Although claiming they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and birds and four-footed creatures and reptiles. 24 Therefore, God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, so that their bodies might be dishonored among them. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.26 That is why God gave them over to uncontrolled sexual passion, for their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; 27 likewise also the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full penalty, which was due for their error. 28 Just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting. 29 And they were filled with all unrighteousness,wickedness, greed, and badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice, being whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, schemers of what is harmful, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, and merciless. 32 Although these know full well the righteous decree of God that those practicing such things are deserving of death they not only keep on doing them but also approve of those practicing them.) Starting a verse 25 Paul talks about how the truth of God was exchanged for the lie, and they began to worship creation rather than the creator. You see that today with the way the world worships everything but Jehovah God. Just name it people worship it, and just like the scriptures say for that very reason God gave them over to homosexuality in verses 26 & 27. Then it goes on just as people do not see fit to acknowledge God there also given over to mental illness to do the things not fitting and it just continues on to describe every thing else bad in the world today. Praise Jehovah for being generous with his Holy spirit , and his Son Jesus Christ for following his orders all the way until death and leaving us a blue print to unlock the power of the Kingdom.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I'm just telling the truth and giving praise to the Father and Son sorry if I offended you.

I will be blunt and see if you want to continue (not many do) without argument.

What you quoted in your OP is wrong. It is not true. (Really)

I don't follow the Bible and you do; so, how would you set up a biblical debate that both of us can agree on the criteria for judging whether our statements or beliefs are logical or not?

What is the criteria that we can both base our opinions and beliefs so our support will be mutually accepted regardless of the other person's morals (since we aren't debating to change each other's beliefs)?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I'm just telling the truth and giving praise to the Father and Son sorry if I offended you.
You don't offend me at all. I only mention rule 8 as an advisory that breaking rules can have consequences here.


You do a fair amount of preaching yourself, Skim. Sort of a pot calling the kettle black situation.
Note my reply above. I'm not calling any kettle black.. And I don't preach; although, I do admit to offering up a fair number of opinions. ;)


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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Well its a great story anyhow.

Everybody needs a superhero.
Jesus kind of sucks as a superhero, doesn't he? I mean, all I'm saying is that Batman is a better role model. Struck with tragedy and what did he do? ***** about it? Nope! Mother****er punches his problems until they are no longer such!
 
I will be blunt and see if you want to continue (not many do) without argument.

What you quoted in your OP is wrong. It is not true. (Really)

I don't follow the Bible and you do; so, how would you set up a biblical debate that both of us can agree on the criteria for judging whether our statements or beliefs are logical or not?

What is the criteria that we can both base our opinions and beliefs so our support will be mutually accepted regardless of the other person's morals (since we aren't debating to change each other's beliefs)?
What i
I will be blunt and see if you want to continue (not many do) without argument.

What you quoted in your OP is wrong. It is not true. (Really)

I don't follow the Bible and you do; so, how would you set up a biblical debate that both of us can agree on the criteria for judging whether our statements or beliefs are logical or not?

What is the criteria that we can both base our opinions and beliefs so our support will be mutually accepted regardless of the other person's morals (since we aren't debating to change each other's beliefs)?
What I say is true it is no lie. Romans 1 : 21 - 32 describes the world today. It's talking about men who actually knew who God was but refused to acknowledge him, and the penalty they received for it. The world today is the same way sorry but what i say is true. I'm not preaching i'm teaching.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
What i

What I say is true it is no lie. Romans 1 : 21 - 32 describes the world today. It's talking about men who actually knew who God was but refused to acknowledge him, and the penalty they received for it. The world today is the same way sorry but what i say is true. I'm not preaching i'm teaching.

Its not true. Give me a way to judge for myself with evidence we both can agree on that I know men are refusing god and the consequence thereof.

Nichiren Shonin predicted the worlds downfall. In the Lotus Sutra, it says many people will forget the law will always be in a cycle of endless suffering. Its true. There is no supernaturalness about it. Depending on where you live, you can see it. You are also proof of The Buddhas prediction. You dont believe in the Dharma so you will be in the cycle of suffering.

Many religions have consequences for not following. In spirit-ual religions, like christianity how would I know for myself the worlds destruction has to do with peoples ignorance of god?

To tell you honestlys Because people are christians that leads to oppression of those of differing beliefs.
 
I thought we spoke about walls of text and paragraph breaks.
The truth is the truth no matter how you write it.

26 For you see his calling of you, brothers, that there are not many wise in a fleshly way, not many powerful, not many of noble birth, 27 but God chose the foolish things of the world to put the wise men to shame; and God chose the weak things of the world to put the strong things to shame; 28 and God chose the insignificant things of the world and the things looked down on, the things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 so that no one might boast in the sight of God. 30 But it is due to him that you are in union with Christ Jesus, who has become to us wisdom from God, also righteousness and sanctification and release by ransom, 31 so that it may be just as it is written: “The one who boasts, let him boast in Jehovah.”
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
The truth is the truth no matter how you write it.

26 For you see his calling of you, brothers, that there are not many wise in a fleshly way, not many powerful, not many of noble birth, 27 but God chose the foolish things of the world to put the wise men to shame; and God chose the weak things of the world to put the strong things to shame; 28 and God chose the insignificant things of the world and the things looked down on, the things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 so that no one might boast in the sight of God. 30 But it is due to him that you are in union with Christ Jesus, who has become to us wisdom from God, also righteousness and sanctification and release by ransom, 31 so that it may be just as it is written: “The one who boasts, let him boast in Jehovah.”
Maybe. But if you're restaurant is run down and looks like a hovel, you're not going to get any customers.
 
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