What is the deal with YmirGF? (an interview)

[Comprehend]

YmirGF has graciously agreed to allow me a few questions in order to find out what this guy is all about. The purpose of the thread is to discover via interview more about what YmirGF believes spiritually, his views on his religion and maybe a little of the world in general.

I thought I would ask a few basic get to know you questions before I bring the heavier stuff and then see where the answers lead. I also thought that if this goes well, I might interview other members.

Readers, feel free to frubal the interviewee and interviewer.

questions:

1. Where are you from? Give a little background about your upbringing (religious and otherwise) as you feel comfortable.

2. Do you belong to an organized religion? Have you ever?
If yes, please list; if not, please elaborate a little, maybe explain why not.

3. Do you believe in a god or gods? If yes, how would you describe them in one paragraph? (we can get into a longer discussion later).

4. Do you worship regularly? Please explain.



I think these will get us started. Thanks again for agreeing to this, I am excited to get to understand the mysteries of YmirGF a little better!

 

[YmirGF]

YmirGF has graciously agreed to allow me a few questions in order to find out what this guy is all about. The purpose of the thread is to discover via interview more about what YmirGF believes spiritually, his views on his religion and maybe a little of the world in general.

I thought I would ask a few basic get to know you questions before I bring the heavier stuff and then see where the answers lead. I also thought that if this goes well, I might interview other members.

I am always delighted to be given a soapbox to spread my distortions of reality.

Readers, feel free to frubal the interviewee and interviewer.

That is of course if anyone cares a wit about what I have to say and so reads this potentially dreary little thread. I'll try my best to keep things lively.

questions:

1. Where are you from? Give a little background about your upbringing (religious and otherwise) as you feel comfortable.

Such a loaded question, "Where do I come from? Lol! I was hatched on Feb. 23, 1956, on the same day the largest solar flare in history to that point in time was recorded. Though I do not attach any special significance to this event, it does make for an interesting bit of trivia. My current body was born in Vancouver, Canada and I have lived my entire life, up to Aug. 07 within the metropolitan area of Vancouver. I was raised in a strictly atheistic family that fostered a keen sense of learning and thinking for ones self. I believe I have excelled on both those basic principles. I did have a brief fling at Christianity due to a neighborhood friend's mom who was addicted to Billy Graham. That did not last long but has left me with some rather fond stories.

You see, the night I "asked Jesus into my heart" I raced home like any eager 10 year old and announced what I had done, flushed with pride, to my dad who sat quietly watching our small black and white television. He listened thoughtfully to my proclamation and then deftly said, "Son, that is great, now go get your dad another beer." His reaction helped me to put the whole thing into perspective and I dutifully got him his beer.

Our family was distinctly "middle class" and we really never wanted for anything but likewise we never really had all that much for extras. Christmas's were always a delight, as well as birthdays, but I learned at an early age that if I wanted something badly enough, I had to work for it. I think that made me appreciate the value of things and working towards goals.

I am of Scottish/English mix and a third generation Canadian, eh. My schooling, while interesting in the early grades simply did not hold my interest as a growing teen. My A/B average slipped to C+ to C- and the occasional D simply because what I was being taught bored the hell out of my inquisitive young mind.

Sadly I never did graduate from High School, but I did later on, about 20 or so write a Grade 12 equivalency test which I scored very highly on. Sadly I had neither the grades nor the money for further education. In those days, the early 70's university was not a right, it was a financial decision.

I bummed around for a few years and settled down with a lady 7 years my senior and we set up house together when I was 18. We were the last of the red hot hippies as it were and we consumed copious amounts of [bleep, bleep, bleep and bleep] as well as [bleep, bleep and bleep]. I had a distinct fascination for [bleep] and finally after my 300th [bleep] I left the use of [bleep] behind me. I had learned a great deal about myself in the process, though I would not recommend that others follow my lead. My path during this era was exclusively for those who are "well adjusted and curious" only. I am sure that many would say my reliance on [bleep] to unfetter my awareness was a horrendous thing to do, but it isn't that I much care what their thinking on the matter is.

My last use of [bleep] was in Aug. 1977 and I have never felt inclined to do it again. Even paradise can get boring... you have my word on that.

Eventually I settled down and got a job in a retail giant at the time called Eaton's of Canada. It was a slightly higher end store than Sears but not as good as say, Nordstrom's. After my first year I was made a section head and eventually managed a couple of departments in the main store in downtown Vancouver.

I left Eaton's in 1986 and spent a year on Unemployment benefits and playing with my newest love, my Radio Shack Colour Computer II (aka Coco 2). It was love at first byte and I instantly got into programming as well as operating a UNIX-like system called OS-9 which was to be a huge help for me later on. Over the years I mastered Macintosh systems, Atari computers and Amiga computers. Finally I succumbed to the "Dos box" world as Windows was still years away.

Curiously I learned MS-DOS using PC emulator software on my Atari ST. Likewise, I learned Photoshop (Mac version) using a Macintosh emulator that plugged into the side of the Atari. That was version 1.0 of Photoshop, so I have played with it a very long time now and have even taught Photoshop classes.

Aside from this I have always written, but only for my own amusement. I used to keep dream journals (I have about 36 volumes of dream diaries) but stopped when I realized that I never went back and looked at them. It is at that point that I began to instant analysis of dreams upon awaken, before my meditation period.

Aside from this I have work ever since for 3 computer companies. The first was a retail superstore like your Best Buy's then went to a very small, but highly regarded firm that eventually went bankrupt called Wizard Computer Systems. After this I went to one of their competitors and was hired on as an Inside Tech/Marketing Manager/Inventory Manager and pinch-hitter Buyer. That relationship dissolved when the owner turned his 28 year old business over to his sons and I was given a golden handshake, lol. I got on well with the old man but not so well with one of his scion.

I then took a year off, which is now approaching 2 and 1/2 years and have focused on writing my life story. I have completed the first "bizarre" section and am now currently working on a "standard" bio section and a "Rambling conclusions" section.

Whew... time for a smoke, lol. Well... you asked.

*end of Part One* due to the impending 10,000 character RF limit.*

 

[YmirGF]

2. Do you belong to an organized religion? Have you ever?

If yes, please list; if not, please elaborate a little, maybe explain why not.

I do not belong to any organized religion, although like marriage, I have come perilously close on one or two occasions. As indicated above I was a staunch atheist but due to my experimentation with [bleep] I found myself perusing the religions of man. You have to understand that I was not looking for answers. I was merely looking for confirmation. My first sojourn into religion took me into the esoteric realm of Tibetan Buddhism. I can't tell you how odd it was reading about things I had already experienced. In some cases, such as the Clear Light and descriptions of the Dharma Kaya and Og Min, I sat entranced while reading fairly precise descriptions of “realms” of consciousness I was acquainted with. The words on the pages mirrored what I had already perceived.

The reason I did not adopt Buddhism then and there was simple. I already had the prize they had to offer, so it would be a bit of a redundant exercise. Remember, I wasn't looking for answers. I was looking to see if these strange things had happened to others as well. Indeed they had, though the paths were different, the goal was the same, as ZenZero reminded me this morning. While on the subject of Zen, I have to admit that I was completely unimpressed with the thinking of Zen "masters" and Taoists and virtually ignored those two groups over the years. To this moment there are aspects of their teachings that are 180 degrees from my perception of reality. Further to this, I don't believe for a second that it is me who is in error. Imho, it is something that filtered into their teachings over the centuries that watered down the original truths to something more acceptable and considerably less valid. This point is merely an observation and I have no interest whatsoever in arguing with Buddhists or Taoists about my perceptions.

Shortly after this I realized that I needed to learn how to meditate correctly. I had heard wonderful things about Transcendental Meditation and decided to plunk down the hundred bucks. I have never regretted the expenditure, which I could ill afford and would wager that my investment has paid for itself a million times over. I am currently in my 33rd year as being an active practitioner of Transcendental Meditation, however, I have to say that as greatly impressed as I was with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, I never did become terribly interested in his writings or any of his other projects.

A few years after this, I came across the milestone work entitled "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananada. I was bowled over. I was especially struck by a "character" in his book known simply as "Babaji". If you ever have the good fortune to "meet" Babaji you will most surely understand why I was so greatly impressed. I won't say more on this, but it was Babaji that directed me to Krsna consciousness.

ISKCON is perhaps the leading proponent of Krsna on the planet today and being a geeky western "guru wannabe" I was almost seduced into their fold. I was invited to join them but through a quirk of timing decided against it. I felt "the Lord" had other things in mind for me and so I let this opportunity pass. I was definitely a devout Vaisnava at the time and this culminated in my own vision of Vishnu which I have written of a couple of times now. That was a head-spinner to be sure. Though I do not profess to follow their understanding any longer I was most certainly a genuine “believer” for approximately seven years. Even now, I have a soft spot in my heart for the wacky Hare Krsna devotees. If you understood what they are jumping up and down about and grasped the object of their endless chanting, you would know why I still feel this way. You see the “mahamantra” is not a mantra per se, it is a way to get to the source. It is sort of like the deity is blind and is attracted by your voice/thoughts like a moth to flame.

Imagine if you can a meeting with the object of your adoration. It is the most amazing single thing I have accomplished in my life, bar none. That was now 30 years ago and quite frankly I have never been the same since. I have however learned the true nature of that vision now, but to be frank, it took many years to sort through it. It is rather startling encountering a being that seems to be light years across in size. Adjectives like massive, huge, gigantic don't even compare to the immensity of the image, but as I say, I now know what I saw was my own projection, although at the time it was certainly in-frickin-credible.

Oddly I can still see the bemused expression of his eyes and on his face. Those eyes! Wow. It was like looking into two massive black holes and in those lustrous pools I was conscious of the fact that I could see my own reflection. Try to imagine here the effect of holding up two mirrors so that they endlessly repeat the image between them, it was a bit like that. The other two major feelings were an unimaginable amount of Love that radiated from this being and an experience so ecstatic that the word is almost meaningless in the attempt to describe it.

Every cell of my being was as if electrified and I was aware of every cell in my body as well as every particle of my "soul". You have be aware that this vision was internal and that I was conscious of being in more than one place at the same time. I was aware of my body sitting in the Lotus position on my bed and also completely aware of the being that I had the luck of a fool to gain his attention in this purely "out of body" episode. Yin/yang; microcosm/macrocosm. It all made perfect sense.

He never said a word, although, if you can imagine it, my only words were upon recognizing "who" I was looking at was, "Well... holy [sounds a lot like duck]". You have to remember I was still very young. Surprisingly the response was almost like a tidal wave of affection and it poured through every aspect of my being. In the strangest way, I knew I had seen him before. In the strangest way, I knew that what I was seeing and doing was the reason for creation. God wants companions. No, not equals, that is going a bit far, but companions who will amuse him and like a loving grandchild, simply pop in from time to time to say hello! The other lasting impression I got was that all "he" wants for us is for us to follow our dreams and do whatever we need to in order to realize those dreams. The idea being is that a person of integrity will only do "good works" as it were, so it is not like one has to get hung up on "being good", being pious or following silly dogmatic practices. As I say, all that was required is that we be what it is we are and that is quite enough for "him".

I don’t mean to blather on about this to impress people. I really don’t give a fig if anyone believes me. I simply state it to explain WHY I am not terribly impressed with the religions of man. The “god” I met was unlike how “he” is portrayed in any of the stories in the various fairy tales of man.

3. Do you believe in a god or gods? If yes, how would you describe them in one paragraph? (we can get into a longer discussion later).

Yes, but my concept of god is continually morphing and becoming more. God is All That Is. Nothing exists outside of God, period. I do not believe we have ever been externalized and in a sense we are a “real” dream within the mind of God. In other respects “god” is an experience and the sensation of Oneness is perhaps the best indication that “god” exists. In Christian lore it is said that in the beginning God created man in his own image. To my thinking, that image is what many folks call the “soul”. Categorically, in my view, it does not mean that “god” is in any way a being with a physical body similar to our the physical bodies in which we currently reside, although you could consider all of “creation” to be “his” “body”. “God” is not a person as we think of a personality being. In our terms, “god” is each and every part of so-called “creation” but also enjoys an multidimensional existence that is well beyond our present capacity to understand.

I am on record as being somewhat dismissive of all religions of man and their descriptions of their version of deity, so much so, that I often say I am an atheist simply because when I use the term “god” I am not referring to that which they are.

One thing that may be difficult to wrap ones head around is this. It is not possible for the average mortal ensconced within time and space to understand my vision of god – unless they have personally had the experience of Oneness. Without that personal experience of their direct connection to All That Is it is simply not possible to appreciate the image I am trying to convey. The point being is that first folks must understand their own being in relation to the greater universe via direct experience before they can even begin to understand what I am actually trying to tell them.

*end of Part Two*
*Shakes fist at the 10,000 character limit*

 

[YmirGF]

(Continuation)

That might sound deflating, but the good news is that I have learned four genuine techniques for unlocking the experience of Oneness and am already in the process of communicating these methods to others. Hopefully this explanation is not as clear as mud. This also might flesh out why some folks will accuse me of contradicting myself, lol. In reality, I am not and any confusion is caused by my own ability or lack thereof in explaining concepts that have no earthly definitions.

In what is perhaps Doppelganger’s terms I am creating new symbols for things there are no symbols for and attempting the Herculean effort of translating those symbols into meaningful terms that others can digest. I fully realize the odds of pulling this off, but I always did enjoy a good challenge.

4. Do you worship regularly? Please explain.

No. I do not practice worship of any kind, nor do I approve of or recommend such practices though I do appreciate and understand the need of many to do so. In reality it is simply unnecessary. “God” is not so egotistical that “he” needs our respect or praises. It is almost an infantile concept to be honest.

I often ask people, “If you were God, would you want people telling you endlessly how great and merciful you are?” “Would you like people to worship you?’ Not likely, so I can’t understand why any being worthy of being called “god” would expect such attentions. “He” just wants companionship. There isn’t a lot of point being God if you exist all alone now is there. And who exactly would want slaves or servants littering up the place continually prostrating before you. In essence, those concepts are ludicrous.

I think these will get us started. Thanks again for agreeing to this, I am excited to get to understand the mysteries of YmirGF a little better!

I am not so sure that many are all that interested in my warped vision of reality, but this ought to give those who are something to chew on, lol.

Happy star-trails,

Paul (on behalf of the Satanic Hampsters)

 

[Comprehend]

I am always delighted to be given a soapbox to spread my distortions of reality.

That is of course if anyone cares a wit about what I have to say and so reads this potentially dreary little thread. I'll try my best to keep things lively.

Such a loaded question, "Where do I come from? Lol! I was hatched on Feb. 23, 1956, on the same day the largest solar flare in history to that point in time was recorded. Though I do not attach any special significance to this event, it does make for an interesting bit of trivia. My current body was born in Vancouver, Canada and I have lived my entire life, up to Aug. 07 within the metropolitan area of Vancouver. I was raised in a strictly atheistic family that fostered a keen sense of learning and thinking for ones self. I believe I have excelled on both those basic principles. I did have a brief fling at Christianity due to a neighborhood friend's mom who was addicted to Billy Graham. That did not last long but has left me with some rather fond stories.

You see, the night I "asked Jesus into my heart" I raced home like any eager 10 year old and announced what I had done, flushed with pride, to my dad who sat quietly watching our small black and white television. He listened thoughtfully to my proclamation and then deftly said, "Son, that is great, now go get your dad another beer." His reaction helped me to put the whole thing into perspective and I dutifully got him his beer.

Our family was distinctly "middle class" and we really never wanted for anything but likewise we never really had all that much for extras. Christmas's were always a delight, as well as birthdays, but I learned at an early age that if I wanted something badly enough, I had to work for it. I think that made me appreciate the value of things and working towards goals.

I am of Scottish/English mix and a third generation Canadian, eh. My schooling, while interesting in the early grades simply did not hold my interest as a growing teen. My A/B average slipped to C+ to C- and the occasional D simply because what I was being taught bored the hell out of my inquisitive young mind.

Sadly I never did graduate from High School, but I did later on, about 20 or so write a Grade 12 equivalency test which I scored very highly on. Sadly I had neither the grades nor the money for further education. In those days, the early 70's university was not a right, it was a financial decision.

I bummed around for a few years and settled down with a lady 7 years my senior and we set up house together when I was 18. We were the last of the red hot hippies as it were and we consumed copious amounts of [bleep, bleep, bleep and bleep] as well as [bleep, bleep and bleep]. I had a distinct fascination for [bleep] and finally after my 300th [bleep] I left the use of [bleep] behind me. I had learned a great deal about myself in the process, though I would not recommend that others follow my lead. My path during this era was exclusively for those who are "well adjusted and curious" only. I am sure that many would say my reliance on [bleep] to unfetter my awareness was a horrendous thing to do, but it isn't that I much care what their thinking on the matter is.

My last use of [bleep] was in Aug. 1977 and I have never felt inclined to do it again. Even paradise can get boring... you have my word on that.

Eventually I settled down and got a job in a retail giant at the time called Eaton's of Canada. It was a slightly higher end store than Sears but not as good as say, Nordstrom's. After my first year I was made a section head and eventually managed a couple of departments in the main store in downtown Vancouver.

I left Eaton's in 1986 and spent a year on Unemployment benefits and playing with my newest love, my Radio Shack Colour Computer II (aka Coco 2). It was love at first byte and I instantly got into programming as well as operating a UNIX-like system called OS-9 which was to be a huge help for me later on. Over the years I mastered Macintosh systems, Atari computers and Amiga computers. Finally I succumbed to the "Dos box" world as Windows was still years away.

Curiously I learned MS-DOS using PC emulator software on my Atari ST. Likewise, I learned Photoshop (Mac version) using a Macintosh emulator that plugged into the side of the Atari. That was version 1.0 of Photoshop, so I have played with it a very long time now and have even taught Photoshop classes.

Aside from this I have always written, but only for my own amusement. I used to keep dream journals (I have about 36 volumes of dream diaries) but stopped when I realized that I never went back and looked at them. It is at that point that I began to instant analysis of dreams upon awaken, before my meditation period.

Aside from this I have work ever since for 3 computer companies. The first was a retail superstore like your Best Buy's then went to a very small, but highly regarded firm that eventually went bankrupt called Wizard Computer Systems. After this I went to one of their competitors and was hired on as an Inside Tech/Marketing Manager/Inventory Manager and pinch-hitter Buyer. That relationship dissolved when the owner turned his 28 year old business over to his sons and I was given a golden handshake, lol. I got on well with the old man but not so well with one of his scion.

I then took a year off, which is now approaching 2 and 1/2 years and have focused on writing my life story. I have completed the first "bizarre" section and am now currently working on a "standard" bio section and a "Rambling conclusions" section.

Whew... time for a smoke, lol. Well... you asked.

*end of Part One* due to the impending 10,000 character RF limit.*

That was awesome! I learned more about you in 5 minutes of reading than I have in months of wondering...

What an incredibly interesting story, you write well.

time to continue reading.

 

[Scarlett Wampus]

I've often wondered about the origins of YmirGF. Cool interview.

I'm not sure if this is meant as an open interview with the audience jumping in but I have a question. Sorry if this is a pain guys and ignore it or leave it to the end if the continuum of a 1-1 interview would be lost.

That might sound deflating, but the good news is that I have learned four genuine techniques for unlocking the experience of Oneness and am already in the process of communicating these methods to others.

Any hints as to what do these four involve?

Btw I'd also be interested in hearing what aspects of Taoism go in contradiction to how you perceive things. No debate necessary, would just be curious so as to get a better picture of what does and doesn't work for you.

 

[Comprehend]

Simply outstanding.

More questions:

1. What are your feelings on death and an afterlife?

2. Could you discuss the four techniques for unlocking the experience of oneness?

3. Do you think your *bleep* use could have any effect upon your visions?

4. Does God communicate with you or anyone else?

5. What do you think about light? What is it?

 

[YmirGF]

More questions:

Mmmm.

1. What are your feelings on death and an afterlife?

Death is simply a transition, just a birth is a transition. In the latter, the entity sends an aspect of itself into physical reality whereas upon death that aspect returns to the entity from which it came. The two states, birth and death are what may well be the second attribute of incarnating into the Dualistic universe. I am on record as stating that death should be the crowning glory of a wonderful life lived in knowledge and compassion.

The after-life state is the same as the before-life state. The main thing for people to understand is that this state has a special quality to it. It is an almost plasticine reality that will mold itself however the observer wishes to perceive it. Whatever one expects after the point of physical death will be accurately played out based on the observers understanding and expectations. This applies also to those who do not believe in the possibility of surviving physical death.

What I mean is that a Christian will be faithfully met my Jesus and/of God and will sit through the whole judgment shtick, IF that is what they expect. Muslims will indeed experience a reckoning with Allah and if lucky Muhammed [pbuh] may put in a good word for them for dramatic flair. A person who expects their consciousness to be extinguished will experience just that. All these states are temporary however and eventually all will see reality as it is.

At that stage the observer begins to analyze their recently completed life and chooses things they hope to refine. They will often meet with others from the same time/space experience just completed and compare notes and set about agenda's for their next group incarnations. Families, for example often incarnate together but with the subtle twist of role reversals. The father can now be the son and the daughter may be the mother, etc. There are no rules and it is done in this manner so that the observer can appreciate all aspects of family life, first hand.

There is one proviso to keep in mind though. Upon incarnation into the physical system there is no guarantee that individuals will do the tasks that they wanted to accomplish and this is party due to the unpredictable nature of probabilities. An analogy here is similar to going on a trip to the shopping mall. Before heading out you make a list and then make your way to the mall. Once you get to the mall, you are enticed by a host of different things that make you forget about your "to do" list. You arrive back home afterwards with lots of goodies only to realize you did not cross off many items on your list. There is no predestination, but there are agreed upon areas of exploration. You have to appreciate that you may or may not act on accomplishing these tasks.

That is just off the top of my head without giving it much thought. Obviously if people expect to see Heaven/Paradise or Hell/HellFire,. they shall, but only until they are ready to grasp reality on reality's terms, NOT on their terms.

*Yawns* - Time for bed. I'll wite more tomorrw, lol.

 

[methylatedghosts]

Wow Ymir! I can't Frubal you again yet, but wow.

It's like you're typing from my fingers and putting my words on the page...

Well - 98% of it anyway!

So plusses to you

 

[Comprehend]

I've often wondered about the origins of YmirGF. Cool interview.

I'm not sure if this is meant as an open interview with the audience jumping in but I have a question. Sorry if this is a pain guys and ignore it or leave it to the end if the continuum of a 1-1 interview would be lost.



Any hints as to what do these four involve?

Btw I'd also be interested in hearing what aspects of Taoism go in contradiction to how you perceive things. No debate necessary, would just be curious so as to get a better picture of what does and doesn't work for you.

I guess to keep it less complicated, we should leave this a one person interview. However, there is a one-on-one debate discussion forum where we could all discuss YmirGF's answers.

 

[Comprehend]

Wow Ymir! I can't Frubal you again yet, but wow.

It's like you're typing from my fingers and putting my words on the page...

Well - 98% of it anyway!

So plusses to you

He's a great writer besides. This is like reading a great book.

 

[YmirGF]

He's a great writer besides. This is like reading a great book.

*blushes*
Thanks, lol. Well the Muslim's challenge anyone to outdo the Noble Qur'an. I guess they didn't expect someone like me to come along and actually do it, lol.

*giggles*

Back to the questions...

2. Could you discuss the four techniques for unlocking the experience of oneness?

I pm'd Scarlett Wamper with my answer for him and thought rather than rewrite it I'd just get lazy and do a good ol' RF cut and paste job. *grins*

I'm not sure if this is meant as an open interview with the audience jumping in but I have a question. Sorry if this is a pain guys and ignore it or leave it to the end if the continuum of a 1-1 interview would be lost.

Any hints as to what do these four involve?

1. Precipitation of Out of Body experiences within the confines of "lucid" dreaming, though I prefer the term "real dreams".
2. Precipitation of Out of Body experiences through simple meditation techniques.
3. Precipitation of Out of Body experiences via a currently undisclosed method that the general public is not ready to hear because they would instantly assume the method is not valid.
4. Learning how to "stop the world experience" using "will" as motivating action. This is akin to the art of not leaving footprints in the snow. (This is based on using action in harmony with the observer’s environment.)
5. Though undisclosed at this time, I'll give you another which the proper way to appeal to one's larger identity, the part of the individual that is already enlightened, for illumination. This is NOT appealing to "god" but rather simply, clearly, asking that part of self that is beyond the confines of time and space for guidance.

The reason I left this out is because I have not determined how to get it through to people that this is NOT like "praying to god", although I suspect many would assume that that is exactly what I am implying. A rather large difference I am still wrestling with. The idea is based on man's gods are actually his own larger identity. Is it any wonder people feel a presence, lol. Is it any wonder they feel "something" has answered their prayers? It really isn't a wonder, it just an unknown, undocumented aspect of personal reality. Carl Jung was on to something, but didn't go far enough with his thinking, imho.

3. Do you think your *bleep* use could have any effect upon your visions?

Obviously. The extended use of [bleep] under VERY strict conditions allowed my young mind to perceive what can be termed non-ordinary reality. I simply did NOT have any preconceptions about what I perceived and that is what allowed the "magic" to occur. I simply trusted my feelings and plunged headlong into a dazzling and wonderful unknown reality. Unlike my associates at the time, I did not just use [bleep] to get a good [bleep] and feel "groovy". For me, it was all about unlocking another facet of myself in an indelible way. I definitely treated it as a miniature "death/rebirth" as outlined in the Bardo Thodol. The object was always to grasp the Clear Light and I hit the mark 99% of the time.

This is irrelevant to my current perspective however, which quite frankly, few here can imagine. My excursion using [bleep] were always done in meditation and after I became bored with [bleep] I continued with meditation. My meditations led me to some bizarre dreams and my last few decades have been spent penetrating these combined areas. What the reader may find interesting is that I have duplicated each and every experience imaginable while using [bleep] through meditation and dreaming. Meditation and so-called “Lucid” dreaming are where the "real" action is, you have my word on that. The neat thing about dreaming is that it is something EVERYONE can do, with a tiny bit of training which is essentially a crash course in the art of autosuggestion.

So yes, [bleep] showed me reality from another "warped" standpoint, but meditation was like a lens and reality was resolved much like you adjust a pair of binoculars or a telescope. Once the observer understands how to get past their thought structures an amazing view opens up. In Doppelganger-esque terms, if I understand him correctly that is, this would be akin to peering behind superficial symbols and becoming aware of another set of symbols that there is no physical translation for. These symbols are intuitively grasped in an area of consciousness where subject and object can, for the briefest moment, become as one. I hope that makes sense.

4. Does God communicate with you or anyone else?

Yes and no. All I can say Comprehend is that there IS "something" "out there" as it were, but "out there" is right here, inside the mind and heart of the human animal. What the human animal refers to as "the soul" is the direct link between the human animal and his origin. The "soul" in turn is the personalized direct link to "All that is" (or "god"). The human animal does NOT technically require any intermediaries, per se, to touch this aspect of reality. To touch it does not require any faith other than to have faith in ones own ability to do so. It IS that simple.

This is an area that sharply conflicts with religious teaching in that we need intermediaries to help us on our journey to our source. Many religions insist on distinct hierarchies that are actually fairly trivial and place boundaries on the individual that makes the religious authorities necessary. Offices of man that sanctify a person as "god's" representative here on Earth are highly misleading but the simple fact is that many people cannot see beyond this type of dependency relationship and flock to such authorities in droves. It is really just an aspect of the "lemming syndrome" as well as representative of a deep seated need to "fit in" and be with others in the same situation as themselves. Perhaps it is just comfort in numbers needed by like-minded people who support each other with their belief.

5. What do you think about light? What is it?

There are at least two ways to look at light with one being the current scientific explanation and the other being a non-standard representation. They are not describing the same phenomena however. In physical terms, light is as described by our esteemed scientists, although I am not so sure that we are bound by the speed of light, per se. Perhaps science will crack that nut one day, perhaps not.

When I speak of light, I am not referring to light as seen by the physical eyes. I speak of a Light that appears when the eyes are fully closed in the centre of one’s inner field of vision. This light is light of a different nature, a living light, if you will. Here I don't mean to claim the words of Christ but his sentiments about The Light are dead on the money. Unless one goes THROUGH the light and by so doing BECOMES the light (You just do... don't ask me how, lol... it's a perceptual phase shift). Jesus was quite correct in saying that if one does not go through the Light then they cannot get at the tantalizing treats that are hidden behind the effulgence of that light. I guess that is why you have to become a part of the light, lol... or take a lot of sun block and heavy duty sunglasses.

This material may not be copied or published without the express written permission of the author known as YmirGF. Copyright 2007. All rights reserved. The author also authorizes the RF member known as Comprehend to make quotes as he deems fit.

 

[Comprehend]

1.Are you able to cause an out of body experience (a "real dream") during a dream? That is phrased awkwardly but I hope you see what I am asking. Are you able to control your actions in a dream rather than being an observer?

2. Do you have any suggestions to others to master the techniques?

3. Can you say anything more about method #3? PLEASE!!!!

4. Are you able to not leave footprints in snow?

5. Are you able to manipulate your environment with your mind or do you manipulate your perception of your environment?

 

[Comprehend]

ps. This interview has gone better than I hoped. I am amazed.

 

[blackout]

Comprehend.... Great Questions,

YmirGF..... FASCINATING STUFF! & great personal story.

Nice interview all around.
Loved it all so far!

 

[Wandered Off]

A most enjoyable exchange. Thanks!

 

[YmirGF]

1.Are you able to cause an out of body experience (a "real dream") during a dream? That is phrased awkwardly but I hope you see what I am asking. Are you able to control your actions in a dream rather than being an observer?

That is precisely what I am implying Comprehend. Try to imagine precipitating a dream within a dream via the "waking" autosuggestion that you will do just that. As MysticSang'ha found out just recently, at first you may very well have no results. The idea is that you give yourself a CLEAR autosuggetion as you are dropping off to sleep. For example, my first dabbling with this was 3 decades ago when I gave myself this suggestion, "I will awaken when I see my hands." Hilariously, I didn't realize what I had suggested to myself because every time I saw my hands after this I simply woke up, lol. Not quite what I had in mind, lol. Being thick headed I realized that I was simply doing as instructed, so I tweaked the wording to something like this, "When I see my hands within a dream I will become fully awake while remaining in the dream." Curiously, that worked.

I won't tell you what happened that first time, but it was pretty funny. It would simply take too long to tell because it was so odd being fully aware of more than one aspect of identity at a time. I could sense the part of me that was still in active "normal" dreaming, as well as another very clearly thinking part of myself that was essentially playing with his environment like a small child will build crude castles in the sand. A very similar sensation. That sensation grew into a conscious out of body experience, although at first it wasn't obvious. I was simply the same old me and it took awhile to connect the dots (while within the "2nd" dream or "dream" within a dream).

So yes, I am able to cause an out of body episode in the dream environment relatively effortlessly. The biggest key is to become CONSCIOUS -- or bring your full waking consciousness into the dream environment. There is very little appreciable lag between having a thought and seeing it quite literally propelled into what is often a seemingly quite real scenario or drama. It is because one is fully conscious that you begin to notice quite quickly that "Hey... I was just thinking about that and now I am looking at it." To confuse the heck out of folks, you simply find yourself like movie director and each intense thought materializes as a normal dream to the normal dreaming self, of which you are still conscious. You have to appreciate that the "normal" dreaming self is still swept along willy nilly within the thought you have conjured. I hope that makes some sense. It is a bit hard to describe, but in all honesty the possibilities are limitless.

Now conscious out of body perceptions are far different than ordinary perceptions but unfortunately there are no accurate words to depict those sensations. Don't get me wrong, the observer intuitively grasps or understands everything they see, but what is seen and perceived is an entirely different set of symbols than what we are used to dealing with in our three dimensional, physical lives. It's sort of a cosmic Catch-22 in that you can experience it but it is unlikely one is able to describe the experience in verbal terms.

2. Do you have any suggestions to others to master the techniques?

I have outlined the idea of using autosuggestions which are an analytical thing whereas "praying" would possibly accomplish the same feats. The effect should be pretty much the same. Here is the basic scenario.
1. Imagine what you might like to do. It can be as simple as "I want to have an out of body experience and remember everything upon awakening." Repeat this to yourself for a period of 7 to 10 days, possibly two full weeks -- just as you are falling asleep. Remembering to do this is harder than most might appreciate.

2. If nothing has occurred during that time period, though it MAY work the very first time you make the suggestion, simply DROP IT. DO NOT THINK ABOUT IT CONSCIOUSLY, if you can help yourself. You must also believe that an aspect of you, your unconscious, for example, is dealing with "the request" and will "get back" to you when it can. So, treat it like a "what if" experiment. If you believe in the concept of the inner self, then imagine that the inner self is simply cooking up an adventure you are going to enjoy tremendously. It is essential that one at least allow for the possibility that the experience may unfold. (Edit: I.E. ~ if you adamantly BELIEVE there is no possibility that this can be accomplished then your experience will reflect those strongly held beliefs and your efforts may well be in vain.)

3. WARNING: If you are very hung up on the concept of "good" and "evil" and consciously believe in the reality of Satan or the Devil, you are NOT, and I stress NOT, ready to try this kind of endeavor. The simple fact is that your beliefs might propel themselves into seeming actuality in a very "super real" way. Depending on the amount of belief held this could be a very frightening experience. [Edit: I CANNOT stress this point too much!]

3. Can you say anything more about method #3? PLEASE!!!!

The RF rule book precludes discussion in this area. Sorry.
*walks past the question while softly humming an old tune "Picture yourself in boat on a river..." *

4. Are you able to not leave footprints in snow?

Physically speaking -- not just yet. If I am in my "dream" body then you can bet your booties that I would not. I will give you a hint though; people who deal with "spirits" like our own Master Vigil may well notice things that most would entirely miss. He might perceive your residual energy and be able to interact if ever so slightly. It does take practice, lol, as I am sure Dan and a few others here on RF will confirm.

5. Are you able to manipulate your environment with your mind or do you manipulate your perception of your environment?

No more and no less than you do yourself. You might think that means one thing, but I assure you I mean far more than you might at first think.

 

[Comprehend]

There is a lot to digest in this thread.... I knew there was a reason I wanted to pick your brain.


*runs: ponder.bat*

 

[methylatedghosts]

Not only are the answers wonderful (and I'm getting more than one meaning out of them), but the interviewer is doing an amazing job too, keeping it alive for us. Well done, Comprehend!

I love that the questions follow from what he's actually said, rather than some scripted list of questions. You're very good at asking what WE want to know. And also, I see none of your beliefs coming through asking these questions!!

Frubals for you!

 

[YmirGF]

Not only are the answers wonderful (and I'm getting more than one meaning out of them), but the interviewer is doing an amazing job too, keeping it alive for us. Well done, Comprehend!

I love that the questions follow from what he's actually said, rather than some scripted list of questions. You're very good at asking what WE want to know. And also, I see none of your beliefs coming through asking these questions!!

Frubals for you!

That is a good part of the reason I agreed to this whole thing in the first place as I rather expected Comprehend would do an excellent job.