What is the Difference?

[Muffled]

I beleive it is true and have chosen to be part of it.

As Christ offered, we must be born again, born from the flesh into submission to God, which requires us to embrace the Messengers, the Holy Spirit given of God.

Regards Tony

I believe not every messenger has the Holy Spirit.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I believe not every messenger has the Holy Spirit.

Then they were not a Messenger of God.

Luckily, by their fruits we can know them.

Regards Tony

 

[River Sea]

Hmm. Whilst I generally agree.
I don’t know if the Christian interpretation is necessarily the same as the Jewish one

Now I dare not speak on anyone else’s behalf, this is merely based on what I learnt from various Jewish folks I know/knew through the years.
Do forgive me if I’m mistaken or misunderstood the lessons I was given. This might just be “translation wonk”

Satan is sometimes interpreted as a tester or Heavenly prosecutor. Someone who advises God to truly test the faith of His servants (Job.)
He is therefore not always interpreted as the embodiment of evil like a lot of Christian traditions.
More like an adversary. Sometimes even taken to be necessary for testing one’s true faith and morality.
In that sense he could be translated as a sort of Yang to God’s Yin. (Or vice versa)
Something the Dharmic traditions have as well in their teachings (depending on the tradition, of course.)
But again I could be completely wrong. This is mainly second hand information for me. I haven’t studied the Jewish Sacred Texts

@SomeRandom

I agree that Satan is an adversary who helps us learn. Satan works for God.

What is the difference between Dharmic and Shankara?

Do "outside" what "inside" is doing; for example, if the task is to switch between introvert and extrovert constantly, will Dharmic help, or will Shankara only allow introverts? Because, if Shankara turned them into introverts, what challenges would that cause in comparison to what Dharmic will cause?

 

[SomeRandom]

@SomeRandom

I agree that Satan is an adversary who helps us learn. Satan works for God.

What is the difference between Dharmic and Shankara?

Do "outside" what "inside" is doing; for example, if the task is to switch between introvert and extrovert constantly, will Dharmic help, or will Shankara only allow introverts? Because, if Shankara turned them into introverts, what challenges would that cause in comparison to what Dharmic will cause?

Honestly I had to Google the term Shankara lol

I’m largely unfamiliar with that particular school of thought. But I suppose there is definitely a discussion to be had about the differences, benefits and detriments offered by each.

I am clearly way too uneducated to hold such a discussion lol but it’s one that could be rather interesting nonetheless

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Satan is sometimes interpreted as a tester or Heavenly prosecutor

Hmm. Whilst I generally agree.
I don’t know if the Christian interpretation is necessarily the same as the Jewish one

Now I dare not speak on anyone else’s behalf, this is merely based on what I learnt from various Jewish folks I know/knew through the years.
Do forgive me if I’m mistaken or misunderstood the lessons I was given. This might just be “translation wonk”

Satan is sometimes interpreted as a tester or Heavenly prosecutor. Someone who advises God to truly test the faith of His servants (Job.)
He is therefore not always interpreted as the embodiment of evil like a lot of Christian traditions.
More like an adversary. Sometimes even taken to be necessary for testing one’s true faith and morality.
In that sense he could be translated as a sort of Yang to God’s Yin. (Or vice versa)
Something the Dharmic traditions have as well in their teachings (depending on the tradition, of course.)
But again I could be completely wrong. This is mainly second hand information for me. I haven’t studied the Jewish Sacred Texts

I understand God to be our collective consciousness or cc. The thoughts of earth, sky, plants, animals and human coalesce into one thought. That is God. So we pray to all creating when we pray to God. And God is hungry, violent, peaceful when all creation is so. Satan is part of this cc. When a human or animal or stone works against cc, then we call him satan.

Hmm. Whilst I generally agree.
I don’t know if the Christian interpretation is necessarily the same as the Jewish one

Now I dare not speak on anyone else’s behalf, this is merely based on what I learnt from various Jewish folks I know/knew through the years.
Do forgive me if I’m mistaken or misunderstood the lessons I was given. This might just be “translation wonk”

Satan is sometimes interpreted as a tester or Heavenly prosecutor. Someone who advises God to truly test the faith of His servants (Job.)
He is therefore not always interpreted as the embodiment of evil like a lot of Christian traditions.
More like an adversary. Sometimes even taken to be necessary for testing one’s true faith and morality.
In that sense he could be translated as a sort of Yang to God’s Yin. (Or vice versa)
Something the Dharmic traditions have as well in their teachings (depending on the tradition, of course.)
But again I could be completely wrong. This is mainly second hand information for me. I haven’t studied the Jewish Sacred Texts

Satan is sometimes interpreted as a tester or Heavenly prosecutor

Hmm. Whilst I generally agree.
I don’t know if the Christian interpretation is necessarily the same as the Jewish one

Now I dare not speak on anyone else’s behalf, this is merely based on what I learnt from various Jewish folks I know/knew through the years.
Do forgive me if I’m mistaken or misunderstood the lessons I was given. This might just be “translation wonk”

Satan is sometimes interpreted as a tester or Heavenly prosecutor. Someone who advises God to truly test the faith of His servants (Job.)
He is therefore not always interpreted as the embodiment of evil like a lot of Christian traditions.
More like an adversary. Sometimes even taken to be necessary for testing one’s true faith and morality.
In that sense he could be translated as a sort of Yang to God’s Yin. (Or vice versa)
Something the Dharmic traditions have as well in their teachings (depending on the tradition, of course.)
But again I could be completely wrong. This is mainly second hand information for me. I haven’t studied the Jewish Sacred Texts

I understand God to be our collective consciousness or cc. The thoughts of earth, sky, plants, animals and human coalesce into one thought. That is God. So we pray to all creating when we pray to God. And God is hungry, violent, peaceful when all creation is so. Satan is part of this cc. When a human or animal or stone works against cc, then we call him satan.

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Do "outside" what "inside" is doing; for example, if the task is to switch between introvert and extrovert constantly, will Dharmic help, or will Shankara only allow introverts?

Dharma is that which will lead to evolution of God. Introversion is connecting with collective consciousness and extroversion is doing what cc says.

 

[River Sea]

Dharma is that which will lead to evolution of God. Introversion is connecting with collective consciousness and extroversion is doing what cc says.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala How does Dharma lead anyone to evolution of God, what are some of the ways?

Oh, and what is Shankara?

Ok, there's Dharma, and yet there's Shankara. I'm learning, so please teach me: what are the differences, who's the person who influenced this, and when?

Honestly I had to Google the term Shankara lol

Hey @SomeRandom me too. I'm still learning: what is Shankara and what is Dharma?

Here's a song that I like listening too: Moojibaba & Jai Sahaja! — Shankara Karunakara