Kelly of the Phoenix
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So did Orpheus. And Orpheus was a master musician.He went to Hades and back.
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So did Orpheus. And Orpheus was a master musician.He went to Hades and back.
And I would consider that except people get details wrong minutes after an event.Memorisation was a big deal in Greek-Roman times. Indeed, the whole of Homer's work Ilyad was often memorized.
And Jews, to this day, still memorize whole books of the bible. I knew a Jew, who as a boy, had to memorize the entire
Psalms - in six months. His father would ask, 'Read to me the Psalm 'The Lord is my Shepherd' and that boy would
recite Psalm 23. There were no Psalm numbers early days, just identified by first verse. So when Jesus cried 'My God
My God, why hast thou forsake me?' he was really saying to his followers, and the Jews too, 'Read Psalm 22, that's
about my on the cross.'
But I digress.
First Epistle was about AD 55. Luke's Acts was 'completed' ca AD 65 - and Luke drew extensively from the Gospels
of Matthew and Mark (probably Peter's own Gospel, written by his secretary Mark.)
And I would consider that except people get details wrong minutes after an event.
Mainly aimed at Christians but open to everyone.
What is the gospel message? If someone asked you 'What is the good news?' What would you say?
The "good news" that everyone has the opportunity to get into Heaven. A wonderful afterlife awaits any who are willing to accept Jesus as their advocate.
So... The "bad news" would be if you don't agree with this particular dogma you won't have eternal life/heaven?
What if I don't want Jesus as an advocate?
Edit: I find this excruciatingly coercive, and emotionally manipulative.
I believe the good news says nothing about Heaven.
Jesus' message was not for the non-Jews, it is Hellenist-Paul who made it for everyone, please. Right?The "good news" that everyone has the opportunity to get into Heaven. A wonderful afterlife awaits any who are willing to accept Jesus as their advocate.
Yet they, the Pauline-Hellenist followers of Paul believe the following as per Bible, one gathers:I believe the good news says nothing about Heaven.
Sure, we were taught different.
Jesus' message was not for the non-Jews, it is Hellenist-Paul who made it for everyone, please. Right?
Regards
What is the Gospel?
Gospel means a good tiding or a good news and it is that "Jesus did not die a cursed death on the Cross" and that his Second Coming has happened in the form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 for sure, as I understand. Right?
Regards
One belief needs correction, didn't Thomas put his fingers where nails injured Jesus body, please?I believe you are wrong on both counts and only right on one. The body of Jesus died on the cross so even though the Spirit of God left and didn't die with the body, it certainly appeared that Jesus died to the observers. The second coming has not happened yet. The guy mentioned has to be a fake.
Gospel (good news) is the message that the expected coming of the Kingdom of God is about to happen.Mainly aimed at Christians but open to everyone.
What is the gospel message? If someone asked you 'What is the good news?' What would you say?
" Zion"Gospel (good news) is the message that the expected coming of the Kingdom of God is about to happen.
It's already in the OT:
How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of happiness, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, “Your God reigns.”
(Isaiah 52:7)
Why would the Jews be deprived? They had prophets and Jesus among them. They heard it first." Zion"
Jesus good tiding was rightfully restricted to the Jews.
But the Hellenist-Paul changed it, against any rightful authority and Jews were deprived of this good-tiding unlawfully, I gather, please. Right?
Regards