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What Is The Meaning Of Sacrifice?

A. Ben-Shema

Active Member
All the ancient world religions have an idea of, belief in, or requirement for, sacrifice of some kind. However, the original 'Spiritual' meaning of the Law of sacrifice has, in most cases, been lost or misunderstood. The original Law of God required that each of us sacrifice (i.e. make Sacred / Pure / Holy) our own initial (i.e. ‘first-born’) animalistic (beastly / carnal / unspiritual) nature, through the purifying ‘flame’ (God’s Light) of Truth, in order that we might be ‘reborn’ (resurrected) into Spiritual consciousness (i.e. ‘True and Eternal Life’) – or, to put it another way, we must each abolish (‘kill’) our own (initially) ‘beastly’ (carnal) nature. This original and eternal Law was (and still is) falsely interpreted by various materialistic / literalistic priesthoods to mean that God requires the bloody slaughter of (‘first-born’ and ‘pure’) human or animal victims to absolve the sins of humanity! This is why orthodox Christianity has interpreted Jesus’ crucifixion in the same carnal way (i.e. as a ‘blood’ sacrifice for our sins).

The only way to achieve this genuine Sacrifice of the 'lower' self is through the practise of genuine Gnosis, i.e. Mystic Communion with the Light of God.

N.B. The word 'sacrifice' actually means (in its original usage): to make sacred.

Peace & Love :)



 

A. Ben-Shema

Active Member
All the ancient world religions have an idea of, belief in, or requirement for, sacrifice of some kind. However, the original 'Spiritual' meaning of the Law of sacrifice has, in most cases, been lost or misunderstood. The original Law of God required that each of us sacrifice (i.e. make Sacred / Pure / Holy) our own initial (i.e. ‘first-born’) animalistic (beastly / carnal / unspiritual) nature, through the purifying ‘flame’ (God’s Light) of Truth, in order that we might be ‘reborn’ (resurrected) into Spiritual consciousness (i.e. ‘True and Eternal Life’) – or, to put it another way, we must each abolish (‘kill’) our own (initially) ‘beastly’ (carnal) nature. This original and eternal Law was (and still is) falsely interpreted by various materialistic / literalistic priesthoods to mean that God requires the bloody slaughter of (‘first-born’ and ‘pure’) human or animal victims to absolve the sins of humanity! This is why orthodox Christianity has interpreted Jesus’ crucifixion in the same carnal way (i.e. as a ‘blood’ sacrifice for our sins).

The only way to achieve this genuine Sacrifice of the 'lower' self is through the practise of genuine Gnosis, i.e. Mystic Communion with the Light of God.

N.B. The word 'sacrifice' actually means (in its original usage): to make sacred.

Has no-one any comments to give on this very important subject? :ignore: :cover: :sleep:


 
The Jewish people gave Animal sacrifices to reconcile themselves with God. Jesus came to be an eternal sacrifice, thus he ends all animal sacrifice (for those who accept him).

The Wages of sin is blood. in OT times it was animals, in the NT times it is Jesus, whose blood is everlasting. Sacrifice is the paying of a wage, which is owed because of something.
 

A. Ben-Shema

Active Member
Yəhošafat;881708 said:
The Jewish people gave Animal sacrifices to reconcile themselves with God. Jesus came to be an eternal sacrifice, thus he ends all animal sacrifice (for those who accept him).

The Wages of sin is blood. in OT times it was animals, in the NT times it is Jesus, whose blood is everlasting. Sacrifice is the paying of a wage, which is owed because of something.

You have completely ignored everything that I stated in the OP! What is your opinion of what I said?

Peace & Love :)

 
All the ancient world religions have an idea of, belief in, or requirement for, sacrifice of some kind. However, the original 'Spiritual' meaning of the Law of sacrifice has, in most cases, been lost or misunderstood. The original Law of God
What is "the original Law," exactly? The Mosaic Law?

This original and eternal Law was (and still is) falsely interpreted by various materialistic / literalistic priesthoods to mean that God requires the bloody slaughter of (‘first-born’ and ‘pure’) human or animal victims to absolve the sins of humanity! This is why orthodox Christianity has interpreted Jesus’ crucifixion in the same carnal way (i.e. as a ‘blood’ sacrifice for our sins).
Hey, don't take it up with us, take it up with Moses and the Jews! We got the idea that it's literal from them. :shrug:


The only way to achieve this genuine Sacrifice of the 'lower' self is through the practise of genuine Gnosis, i.e. Mystic Communion with the Light of God.
How does one "practice genuine Gnosis", in your view?
 

A. Ben-Shema

Active Member
What is "the original Law," exactly? The Mosaic Law?

No. Not any written or verbal law, but the Eternal 'SPIRITUAL' LAW of God, which is etched within us - within our true Heart.

Hey, don't take it up with us, take it up with Moses and the Jews! We got the idea that it's literal from them. :shrug:

As you say - "the blind leading the blind"! :eek:

How does one "practice genuine Gnosis", in your view?

One needs to learn the Mysteries from a genuine living Master.

Peace & Love :)
 

fullyveiled muslimah

Evil incarnate!
All the ancient world religions have an idea of, belief in, or requirement for, sacrifice of some kind. However, the original 'Spiritual' meaning of the Law of sacrifice has, in most cases, been lost or misunderstood. The original Law of God required that each of us sacrifice (i.e. make Sacred / Pure / Holy) our own initial (i.e. ‘first-born’) animalistic (beastly / carnal / unspiritual) nature, through the purifying ‘flame’ (God’s Light) of Truth, in order that we might be ‘reborn’ (resurrected) into Spiritual consciousness (i.e. ‘True and Eternal Life’) – or, to put it another way, we must each abolish (‘kill’) our own (initially) ‘beastly’ (carnal) nature. This original and eternal Law was (and still is) falsely interpreted by various materialistic / literalistic priesthoods to mean that God requires the bloody slaughter of (‘first-born’ and ‘pure’) human or animal victims to absolve the sins of humanity! This is why orthodox Christianity has interpreted Jesus’ crucifixion in the same carnal way (i.e. as a ‘blood’ sacrifice for our sins).

The only way to achieve this genuine Sacrifice of the 'lower' self is through the practise of genuine Gnosis, i.e. Mystic Communion with the Light of God.

N.B. The word 'sacrifice' actually means (in its original usage): to make sacred.

Peace & Love :)


I see where you're going with this. I agree pretty much. Islam teaches this very thing, that it is the struggle against the self that is the single greatest struggle of any person. It is lifelong, as there is always room for improvement, but it is the effort moreso than the outcome that pleases Allah the most. Allah is most pleased with the effort of creating a balance within the self, and striving to conform to the commands of Allah is a means to achieve this end. It is not perfection expected of the human beings, only the effort to do become better.
 
No. Not any written or verbal law, but the Eternal 'SPIRITUAL' LAW of God, which is etched within us - within our true Heart.
And how did you arrive at what this "spiritual law" is?


As you say - "the blind leading the blind"! :eek:

"I see," said the blind man to the deaf man. :)

One needs to learn the Mysteries from a genuine living Master.
Who would you currently recommend, and what makes that person "genuine" and a "Master"?
 

A. Ben-Shema

Active Member
And how did you arrive at what this "spiritual law" is?

Simply from personal experience and revelation of the Spirit of Truth. You may scoff at this, but the experience is available to all who sincerely seek.

"I see," said the blind man to the deaf man.

:rolleyes: :cover: :ignore: :D

Who would you currently recommend, and what makes that person "genuine" and a "Master"?

I would recommend just what all scriptures recommend - that you seek for yourself, with ALL your heart and soul!

A genuine Master will not make promises of some future experience of Heaven - He will reveal the experience RIGHT HERE AND NOW! i.e. you will know them by their fruits.

Peace & Love


 

A. Ben-Shema

Active Member
This original and eternal Law was (and still is) falsely interpreted by various materialistic / literalistic priesthoods to mean that God requires the bloody slaughter of (‘first-born’ and ‘pure’) human or animal victims to absolve the sins of humanity! This is why orthodox Christianity has interpreted Jesus’ crucifixion in the same carnal way (i.e. as a ‘blood’ sacrifice for our sins).

This means that the central tenet of 'Pauline' Christianity (Jesus' sacrificial / sanctifying death on the cross) is totally false.

Actually, you will see 'blood sacrifices' are much favoured in 'satanic' religions, :yes: e.g. voodoo, black magic, and Paulism, etc. :eek:

Peace & Love :)



 

A. Ben-Shema

Active Member

This means that the central tenet of 'Pauline' Christianity (Jesus' sacrificial / sanctifying death on the cross) is totally false.

Actually, you will see 'blood sacrifices' are much favoured in 'satanic' religions, e.g. voodoo, black magic, and Paulism, etc. :eek:

ANY COMMENTS? :confused: :sleep: :shrug:
 
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