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What is the most common mistake that atheists make?

Reflex

Active Member
You have not answered my questions.

If you have a faith based belief then you are a waste of time to argue with.
No evidence to be shown means nothing for me to care about.

If you have a belief in deities or spirits or Gods that does not rely on faith, I would like to see some evidence for such things.

There's your rational atheist argument. Enjoy.
That's not a rational argument. It's being evasive. Present your alternative and then we can talk. "The atheist must substitute another hypothesis in God’s place in order to justify his rejection of God, and furthermore he must provide evidence for that hypothesis. Until that event comes to pass, the theist remains justified in his belief, albeit an uncertain belief." Otherwise, you're just being evasive and, therefore, irrelevant.
 
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Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Red herring. Present your alternative. Otherwise, you're just being evasive and, therefore, irrelevant
Hmm.
My questions are still unanswered.
If you continue to evade them I will assume you are unable or unwilling to answer them.

There the conversation ends.

(you're the one performing a red herring here, fyi)
 

Reflex

Active Member
Hmm.
My questions are still unanswered.
If you continue to evade them I will assume you are unable or unwilling to answer them.

There the conversation ends.

(you're the one performing a red herring here, fyi)
You are the one unwilling to posit an alternative we can debate.
 
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Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
You are the one unwilling to posit an alternative we can debate. Coward.

Call me what you will but you can't even answer a few simple questions.
This is the topic I've initiated this argument on. We will stick to it or cease discussion.
Your choice.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
I should add that I feel you are someone to be argued with, not debated.
If I want to debate you I'll present a proper subject and premise on what is to be discussed.
But you've already resorted to insults, and your views seem either irrational, biased or both.
So an argument is all you've "earned", if I am to be so bold.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Considering that atheism is NOT the historical norm, that's a silly comment unless you have evidence.
What does a historical norm have to do with anything? Aren't there hundreds of constantly changing "historical norms?"

Atheism is not a belief system. It asserts nothing, so what sort of evidence did you have in mind for no belief at all?
Again, it's the religious who are proposing invisible, magic entities, so how is it that those proposing nothing have the burden of proof?
 

McBell

Unbound
How juvenile. The atheist must substitute another hypothesis in God’s place in order to justify his rejection of God, and furthermore he must provide evidence for that hypothesis. Until that event comes to pass, the theist remains justified in his belief, albeit an uncertain belief.
you keep using that word "hypothesis", but your usage reveals you hav eno idea what the word means.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The atheist must substitute another hypothesis in God’s place in order to justify his rejection of God, and furthermore he must provide evidence for that hypothesis

The "bolding" indicates your desperation to successfully push a fallacy on others.

How can you demand evidence, when you have none at all???????? and what you do have points to a mythological creation.

Which god are you talking about? there are many?


Maybe the reality here is you want to attribute your mythology to nature despite not having evidence of any kind, at any time, in any place, and ONLY providing a hostile attitude because we see your fallacy forward and backwards.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
you keep using that word "hypothesis", but your usage reveals you hav eno idea what the word means.

Since he has joined he has pushed the man made philosophical argument, as his god under the guise of classical theism, which is a category of a god argument, but not an actual deity.

I guess he believes in arguing unsuccessfully, because nothing was ever substantiated in the debate of classical theism. It is only an opinion and nothing more.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
The "bolding" indicates your desperation to successfully push a fallacy on others.

How can you demand evidence, when you have none at all???????? and what you do have points to a mythological creation.

Which god are you talking about? there are many?

Maybe the reality here is you want to attribute your mythology to nature despite not having evidence of any kind, at any time, in any place, and ONLY providing a hostile attitude because we see your fallacy forward and backwards.
He does struggle a lot, doesn't he, and I'm actually beginning to feel a bit sorry for the fellow. His days don't seem to have much sunshine in them.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
He does struggle a lot, doesn't he, and I'm actually beginning to feel a bit sorry for the fellow. His days don't seem to have much sunshine in them.

There was like 4 of these guys that all joined at once.

One is fitting in, this one is having a tougher time.
 
"The atheist must substitute another hypothesis in God’s place in order to justify his rejection of God, and furthermore he must provide evidence for that hypothesis. Until that event comes to pass, the theist remains justified in his belief, albeit an uncertain belief." Otherwise, you're just being evasive and, therefore, irrelevant"

There is a whole field of education called "Science" that provides not only hypotheses but theories and laws as well to substitute for a God, god, or gods. There is also multitudes of evidence supporting these hypotheses, theories, and laws.

Furthermore, why wouldn't the burden of proof rest upon those who posit the existence of something, rather than those who do not acknowledge that existence? That is, in fact, the entire purpose of the burden of proof. To sway the non-believers into believing.
 
I am new here as might be evident. If I were to quote someone, I would press the "+Quote" icon, right? Then do am I able to select which parts I would like to quote?

I figure it would be better to ask those who have more knowledge than to figure it out myself and risk not doing exactly what I want.
 
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